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YOUTH ADVOCACY PROGRAM
ADVISORY C014M I TTEE MEETING
14ARCH 1, 1990
7:00 P.M.
Members Present: Fran Bukrey, Don Colleton, Chairman; Manny
isqulerdo, Bishop Carlis Moody, Bob Roy, Robert
Rutledge
Members Absent: mike DeVaul, Kathleen Hardgrove, Henry Hayes,
Delores Holmes, Janice Lane, Dan Moses, Stan
Payne, Allen Price, Eplflanlo Reyther
Staff Present: Jay Terry, Carey Wright, Joseph Butler, Kate
Ker i n, Arro I 1 a Lopez
Presiding Official: Don Colleton
Visitors: Sabrina Orick
Call to Order
Don Col leton called the meeting to order. He welcomed the attendees
and requested that they Introduce themselves.
Minutes of January 11, 1990
The minutes could not be approved because there was not a quorum
present.
Retreat
Colleton stated that the agenda should be altered so that the recent
retreat could be discussed.
Carey Wright stated that the retreat was conducted for one and
one-half days to build relationships among staff and make program
plans. He stated that a consultant was present on the first day to
discuss stress and burn -out. On the second day they discussed a
policy and procedures manual which they are writing. Jay Terry stated
that it became clear him that the day to day Advocate activities do
not always match what originally was envisioned when the program was
designed. He indicated that the Advocates need to know that the City
and Advisory Coimmittee support their activities. Bob Rutledge
indicated that at the retreat he learned that the YAP staff is
cohesive, express leadership ability and have clear priorities. He
Indicated that the Committee should work with the Advocates on how to
best channel their energies. He also Indicated that he felt the
issues from the retreat were the Advocates's feeling that they are
powerless to do what needs to be done and the coordination which many
times involves only relying on goodwill. He questioned how to help
the Advocates achieve the needed power.
Discussion
There was a general discussion of Issues such as uncooperative
families, re -development of mission statement (redefining goals), need
for more support to YAP staff, need for more referrals for family
counselling, Advocates as surrogate parents (expanded role), and the
accountability factor of agencies, and whether agencies are delivering
the needed services.
After some discussion Colleton stated that there has never been any
doubt that the treatment of high risk would be difficult or expensive.
He Indicated that existing agencies cannot afford outreach to high
risk. He stated that he felt that with a limited caseload (30 to 35
maximum) no particular agency would be overburdened.
There was some discussion of the need for family counselling and
mental health services for the high risk families. Roy Indicated that
the weakness of the program may the lack of non-professional help from
the community. People will turn to someone who they trust (neighbor,
friend,etc.) before they seek help from a professional. Bishop !•body
stated that there are people in the local community who will help
others. These people can be reached through the churches and the
schools. Wright stated that he looks for specially trained mental
health professionals who can help the high risk families. Roy stated
that the solution will come from the community and YAP should help
create the opportunities.
Colleton descibed the role of Coe-Moms/Coe-Pops as an example of a
community help group. He stated that this organization tries to
(1) show the youth they care by being physically present; (2) be real
explicit in the values set; and (3) be demanding and strict about
rules.
Rutledge Indicated that the leadership for working with a "YAP" family
should fall on YAP staff. The services provided should be prioritized
according to individual need. YAP should have a range of services
that can be channelled to specific families. Wright stated that the
first approach should begin with the family; i.e. services geared
toward the family.
Colleton summarized by Indicating that YAP should be providing the
leadership function for the high risk families served. YAP has to
find a way to cooperatively draw out the resources from the community
and service agencies to get the job done. He indicated that the
question to be asked Is are we approaching our cases 1n a way that
invites the agency participation and the community support we think we
need? Does YAP have the power to exact the cooperation? Should there
be a focus on some sort of participatory process?
Carey Wright, Staff
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YOUTH ADVOCACY PROGRAM
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
MARCH 15, 1990
7:00 P.M.
Members Presents Fran Bukrey, Don Colleton, Chairman; Mike
DeVaul, Kathleen Hardgrove, Manny Isquierdo,
Janice Lane, Dan Moses, Robert Rutledge, Bob Roy
Members Absents Fran Bukrey, Bishop Moody, Stan Payne, Delores
Holmes, Henry Hayes, Eplfanlo Reyther
Staff Present: Carey Wright, Joseph Butler, Kate Kerin, Amelia
Lopez
Presiding Official: Don Colleton
Call to Order
Don Colleton called the meeting to order. it was decided to discuss
matters of Immediate importance such as thinking through improving the
relationship between YAP and the Coalition and the two-year program
evaluation report which is being prepared by Carey Wright. Don stated
that a Subcommittee should be established to evaluate the report
before presenting it to Human Service Committee. Don stated that Jay
Terry will submit a response to Alderman Washington's previous memo
and he (Don) will make an administrative response. Janice Lane, a new
member was Introduced to the group.
Minutes
The minutes of January 11, 1990 were approved as written. The minutes
of March 1, 1990 were revised to reflect further explanation of
paragraph 2 on page 2. This paragraph required further elaboration on
the discussion concerning the difficulty and expense of treatment of
high risk youth. The treatment of the most high risk youth requires a
tremendous amount of attention and allocation of manpower. There no
agency whose sole mission is service to the high risk youth. There is
some concern from existing agencies that any one of them takes on all
the high risk, then there wouldn't be enough manpower to be effective.
The thought with YAP is that they would have a relatively fewer number
of cases and the staff (in coordinating) would call upon some of the
existing agencies In such a way that the agency services would not be
exhausted. The minutes of March 1, 1990 were approved as revised.
Old Business
Colleton indicated -that Ken Ehrensaft has submitted some draft
material as a follow-up of his report. He suggested that discussion
of this material be considered at a later time.
Colleton stated that the Committee needs to make an appearance before
the Human Services Committee on March 26 at which time the Two Year
Evaluation will be submitted. The Subcommittee for evaluation of the
report will need to meet to give Input on the report and the
presentation. It was decided that Kate Kerin would represent the
Advocates at the the Human Service Committee meeting. Bob Rutledge
indicated that the Evaluation Report may represent a kind of
extension of the report by Ehrensaft in that they are seeking a more
extensive report on the program from the Advisory Committee.
Colleton Indicated that at the last meeting it was the group sense
that they need to put some Ideas together on the issues concerning the
Coalition. He stated that the Coalition began as group of Youth
Serving Agencies who rnt for 16-18 months prior to the Spring of 1986
to develop a program which could address the problems of high risk
youth. This consortium of agencies presented the concept of YAP to
the City Council. This concept Included the appointment of the
Advisory Committee which was made up of agency representative from the
consortium. The Advisory Committee reorganized the structure of YAP
by having the Advocates become City Employees. It is felt that this
reorganization bred some mistrust between those who fostered the
program in the beginning and those who administer the existing
program. The evaluation of the program by Ehrensaft was not complete
or clear enough to present focused Issues. Finally part of the YAP
concept was to determine whether there are services gaps or needs of
tho high risk youth that are not met because services are not
available. This has been a difficult area because the Advisory
Committee has been called upon to report to the Human Services
Committee on whether or not one or another agency has either been
cooperative or is able to deliver services those agencies say exist.
These factors have caused some distance between the Coalition and YAP.
Don Indicated that the Committee needed to improve the relationship
with the Coalition.
Rutledge stated that It may be a communication problem for which they
may create channels for good communication. He suggested the
following ways to create channels of communication: (1) Inviting the
Coalition to create a Ilaslon within their group who would sit in on
the Advisory Committee meetings and report back to the Coalition.
(2) the members of the Advisory Committee who are members of the
Coalition could be designated by both groups to give more
clarification to both groups. (3) The Advisory Committee could make a
special effort to communicate with the Coalition.
A rather lengthy discussion followed as various Committee members
voiced their concerns that too much time Is being spent discussing
turf Issues and there Is not enough focus on youth. Bob Roy, Manuel
Isqulerdo, and Dan Moses cited examples of recent incidents that have
Incurred Involving Evanston youth. They went on to express the focus
of attention must be on youth and what we can do to address their
needs. Don Colleton stated we must get on with the business of doing
rather than just talking. The potential for gang and youth problems
this summer was a concern echoed by Committee members.
Further discussion on the relationship between YAP and the Coalition
was summarized as follows:
1? There is a need for structured communication between the Advisory
Committee and the Coalition.
2? There should be some kind of "air clearing" session with the
Coalition to clear up any existing confusion.
Roy stated that the Coalition's responsibility to develop a community
based support for youth who do not have any other structure.
DoVaul Indicated YAP cannot got caught up in confusion because of the
importance of their mission i.e., to help the high risk youth. The
problems with the Coalition are totally separate from the YAP mission.
Further discussion followed on the Issues Involving the Coalition.
Lane suggested that It may be time to review the goals originally set
for YAP. Bob Roy stated that he agrees as long as the goals are
concrete. He indicated that the Youth Services Coordinator was
supposed to be an observer of the service delivery problems. He
indicated that it may be that YAP has to fall -in order to reach its
goals so that the real problems can be revealed. His biggest fear
about the program is that if it does not work, then the youth Involved
will be victims of the fear response, i.e. they are bad people,
therefore don't treat them -lock them up. He indicated that the YAP
program stands as a equal to the Coalition and should be treated as
such.
It was decided that all members would receive a copy of the evaluation
report and a meeting would be held on March 21 to discuss the March 26
presentation to the Human Services Committee.
The meeting was adjourned.
Carey Wright, Staff
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YOUTH ADVOCACY PROGRAM
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
APRIL 19. 1990
7:00 P.M.
Members Present: Fran Bukrey, Don Colleton, Chairman; Delores
Holmes, 81shop Moody, Bob Roy
Members Absent: Mike De Vaul, Kathleen Hardgrove, Henry Hayes,
Manny Isquirerdo, Janice Lane, Dan Moses, Stan
Payne, E:pifanio Reyther, Bob Rutledge
Staff Present: ,lay Terry, Carey Wright, Joseph Butler, Kate
Kerin, Amelia Lopez
Presiding Official: Don Colleton
Call to Order
Don Colleton called the meeting to order.
Statistics
Colleton initiated a discussion regarding compiling statistics. He
Indicated that a service agency may have a variety of valid reasons
why they cannot help a youth referred by YAP. The statistics need to
be compiled as soon as possible because they will help determine which
agency Is giving satisfactory service and which Is not.
Meeting Room
There was some discussion on the assignment of meeting rooms. Carey
Wright explained that the rooms are assigned months in advance and he
will attempt to get the same room each month, If possible.
Computer
In response to a question from Colleton, Kerin and Wright explained
that there was two Wang computers available for use. and Indicated
that they needed a programmer to set up the data base. Colleton
stated that he would refer someone to them. There was some discussion
of the type of data to store. Colleton stated that the data should
establish what services are needed and which agencies donit meet the
clients needs. Colleton Indicated that the objective Is not to set up
any agency for failure. The purpose is to find the service gaps and
determino if they can be corrected. If an agency cannot give the
service needed, then the case should be taken to the director of the
agency (or higher level) so that it can be established exactly what an
agency can or cannot do. There should never be a case that gets
bogged dorm for lack of proper service. Delores Holmes Indicated that
there has to be documentation because the agency has to be able to
show the facts.
Minutes
Fran Bukrey state,l that she was absent at the last meeting, but the
minutes showed hor present. Bob Roy stated that his statement on the
last page, should be changed to state that he said specific goals
should be set and if they are not met, then YAP should be able to
explain why.
Activity and Statistical Report
Roy comnanted that he wants to discuss the establishment of policy and
procedures that define what Information must be taken at Intake. He
Indicated that terms should be defined. He suggests that the terms be
put into the policy and procedure manual. Roy specifically asked for
a definitlon of collateral contract as it appears on the Youth
Advocacy Program Report. Kerin stated that a collateral contract is
any contact between YAP, the client and anyone other than the family
with measurements in terms of contacts not hours. Roy suggested that
such measurerents of contacts be consistent. In response to another
question from Roy, Kerin stated that the "!dumber of intake sessions"
are the number of sessions held regarding a client who is not yet
staffed. It was established that this statistic may need to be moved
on the report. Colleton requested that staff attach a narrative key
to the report to clarify terms. Kerin stated that the total number of
persons they deal with would be a total of the number of open cases,
the number of extended Intakes, and the number of referrals. Holmes
stated that this term should be added as the number of unduplicated
contacts. It was established that Earn and Learn whould be combined
from District 65. Roy stated that there needs to be established
standards on horn to closo a case. He stated that there might be the
perception that they need to hang on to cases even when people don't
cooperate. In response to a question, Wright stated that there was
still some capacity to take on more cases.
Purchase of Service Agreement
Colleton stated that the orgininal theses of the program included
asking for, not buying, the services for the clients. He added that
It might be over time that It is shown that an agency does not have
the financial capacity to give the service. He asked If the proposed
service contract reflect some Judgement that Family Counseling has
freely given all the services asked for. He asked If tKey have set
with the head of Family Counseling and discussed why service cannot be
given.
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In response to questions concerning tho reasons to purchase service,
Wright stated that the major service providers who have not been
Involved in YAP cases give the following reasons: because they
usually provide services In house; service to YAP clients Is not
traditional; the agency funding and client load such that they have
waiting lists and they cannot do Intensive outreach. Colieton stated
that It sounds like this is a case where we know we want and cannot
got it. Ho Indicated that these agencies should have the opportunity
to put it In writing that they cannot give service. Amelia Lopez
stated that she has referred a YAP family to Family Counseling and
they accepted the case In March. However, no service has been given
duo to scheduling problems.
The meeting was adjourned.
Carey Wright, Staff
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YOUTH ADVOCACY PROGRAM
ADVISORY COMMITTEE" MEETING
MAY 17, 1990
7:00 P.M.
Members Present: Fran Bukrey, Don Colleton, Chairman; Mike
DeVaul, Eplfanlo Reyther, Bob Roy, Bob Rutledge
Members Absents Kathleen Hardgrove, Henry Hayes, Manny
Isqulrerdo, Janice lane, Bishop Carlis Moody, Elan
Moses, Stan Payne,
Staff Presents Jay Terry, Carey Wright, Joseph Butler, Kate
Karin, Amelia Lopez, Terri Draws
Presiding Official: Don Colleton
Call to Order
Don Colleton called the meeting to order.
Activity and Statistical Report
Colleton called attention to the key which was written to interpret
the categories of the report. In response to a question from Bukrey,
Karin stated that the hours in Item VI. were unduplicated. Wright
called attention to the explanation on the Code Sheet for Number of
Open Cases. Open cases includo any client or parent with whom an
Advocate has contact with at least once. (Under the old system only
cases that were formally staffed were considered open.) Kerin
'sxplalned that the number of collateral contacts represents each
contact with an agency concerning a client. Colleton suggested that
the terms be more descriptive. He also requested that a there be a
new category which states whether service Is being given.
Sub -categories should be created to show when and why service is
denied.
In reference to item Vlll., Colleton asked If enough referrals are
being made? Karin stated that they have not made referrals unless
they were sure they would be accepted. Wright stated that they try to
make clear, specific referrals. Colleton indicated that YAP needs
some measurement of the entire referral process - whether the right
referrals are being made, whether the referrals are sucessful, etc.
Karin stated that they could track such aspects as "service not
available". Wright and the Advocates gave examples of service which
YAP ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING — MAY 17, 1990 2
were difficult to find such as counseling and long terns outreach.
Wright stated that it can be difficult to determine how long a client
needs to be Involved in a service. The Advocates need to determine an
objective way to measure the effect of the service. Colleton stated
that they need to make a specific, defined service request and measure
It. There followed som discussion of what the advocates should do
when they get a denial for service from an agency. It was determined
that they should attempt to negotiate with the agency and if that
falls, then report It as a refusal to deliver service. The Youth
Services Coordinator is then responsible for taking appropriate
actions.
Linder the item, Referrals glade By YAP, it was determined that fob
referrals such as Jewels should be placed under "Other".
In response to a question from Rutledge, the Advocates stated that
surrogate parenting has become one of the services requested
especially when parents don't follow up on educational and medical
problems. Terry stated that there is a growing number of kids who
have minimal parental support. Wright stated that there is a need for
agencies to work with the parents to help them with home based family
support services.
Bukrey stated that substance abuse seems to be common among parents
who don't take responsibility for their children. The service gap
seems to be the problems involved with getting treatment for the
substance abuse. Terry stated that who and what is a substance abuse
counselor Is a murky issue because these counselors need to be
culturally sensitive and based In the corrrunity. There are few
community agencies who have certification as substance abuse
counselors. Service here in Evanston is not clear. In response to
comments, Aright stated that you can get bogged down looking at the
family's problem as a substance abuse issue. Rutledge asked what are
the other factors that lead to parent dysfunction? He stated that If
there Is substance abuse then It needs to be addressed. Wright stated
that many parents who are not substance abusers are young people with
low parenting skills end limited problem solving options, some have
health problems; some have no job or too many Jcbs. Also the
;aregiver may not be the natural parent so they may not fully commltt
to the child. Colleton indicated that he was not sure that the
community had the kinds of service the parents need. DeVaul stated
that some parents are Inexperienced and they won't expose their
children to activities they have never had. Rutledge Indicated that
an issue is how to get the parents into services that address their
problems. There was some discussion whethers substance abuse was the
main problem with the YAP parents. Colleton stated that they need to
promote substance abuse programs in Evanston. Kerin stated that
families don't necessarily follow up on referrals for substance abuse.
Bukrey stated that If YAP accepts families where substance abuse is a
problem and YAP doesn't confront the problem, then they are building
In a failure component, otherwise, they will have to admit that the
family cannot be accepted. DeVaul asked how does one overcome such
barriers? Bukrey indicated that you have to confront the resistance,
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and help a family Identify what their aspirations are. Rutledge
Indicated that as long as there is any resource available to the
youth, then, they should not be excluded from the program even if the
parents don't participate. He stated that substance abuse is a
devastating problem which should be placed in a special category. The
Advocates could end up spending a lot of time dealing with what they
think Is low parenting skills when the real problem is substance
abuse. Colleton indicated that there may be a need for some kind of
intensive homo-based substance abuse service which Is not readily
available in Evanston. After further discussion, Wright stated that
If he clearly thought there was a substance abuse problem, he would
discuss it with the parents, then, If possible, refer them to some
service to benefit them. Terry stated that there is a need to discuss
the strategies of discussing substance abuse with the parents because
it Is such a sensitive issue. DoVaul added that parental Issues in
general need to be dealt with. Wright stated that YAP should focus on
the youth and help parents understand that they can improve the
outcome of their kids. The issue and solution are the parents and It
does not serve the Advocates' purposes to alienate them by accusing
them of substance abuse. Terry stated that it is an unfair burden to
the Advocates to try to deal with something that the entire country
cannot do much about. Rutledge added that the Advocates should engage
the parents by helping there deal with what ever problems they have,
then ultimately they can form a relationship which may allow them to
discuss substance abuse. After further discussion it was determined
that the Advocate should try to avoid actually doing the tasks of the
caretaker. The Advocate should help establish a network for tr youth
to receive service. This service Includes neighbors, other relatives,
as well as agencies. Colleton stated that he would like for the
Advocates to report on substance abuse problems In the next few
months.
Brochure
Terri Draws, Intern, requested Input regarding the YAP Brochure.
Rutledge stated that he liked the linkage with agency, church and
school. He was concerned about simplifying the design because the
,images don't fit the urban situation, He also stated that he
4uestioned the picture of the family. Roy suggested that questions to
youth be added. He also suggested that they use photographs. Bukrey
Indicated that the brochure may not need so much explanation. Draws
stated that she was completing her internship, but would complete her
draft before leaving In June.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:05 a.m.
Carey Wright, Staff
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Staff Present:
mot Approved
YOUTH ADVOCACY PROGRAM
ADVISORY COM14 I TTEE MEETING
JUNE 21, 1990
7:00 P.M.
Fran Bukroy, Don Colleton, Chairman; Delores
Holmes, Janice Lane, Bob Roy, Bob Rutledge
Mike De Vaul, Kathleen Hardgrove, Henry Hayes,
Manny Isquirerdo, Dan Moses, Stan Payne,
Eplfanlo Reyther
Jay Terry, Carey Wright, Joseph Butler, Kate
Kerin, Amelia Lopez
Presiding Official: Don Colleton
Call to Order
Don Colleton called the meeting to order.
Colleton opened the meeting with a brainstorm session on - if the
Committee could make any changes In the program they wanted - ghat
would they change? Some Ideas included lower Advocate to client ratio
which would allow for more intensive service; expand target group to
Include youth age 9; fill service gaps by providing home based
services Including re -parenting skills, Individual and family
counseling, homemaking service to substance abusers, and child care
assistance. Colleton Indicated that the group seems to be coming to .
the conclusion that the existing service organizations and YAP have
not been able to significantly change behavior outcomes such as school
attendance, school behavior, and police contacts. Therefore, he
wanted to discuss what the Committee could do If they were given a
free hand.
Wright stated that the program could lower the targeted age group to
age nine in order to help the youth earlier when change is more
promising. Butler suggested that the school curriculum should be
changed for those youth who are not in main stream America so that
they can learn their heritage to Increase self-esteem and pride.
Kerin stated that they should change the way the service agencies
provide service. General discussion followed concerning the
Importance of family involvement In the services to high risk youth
and why parents have to be encouraged and supported In fulfilling
their parental obligations. Service agencies need to know that when
they deal with the high risk youth, they need to get the family
Youth Advocacy Program Advisory Committee, June 21, 1990 2
involved. Roy stated that some agencies may object because dealing
with the family will expand their mission. Holmes Indicated that
there Is a real lack of services to the high risk families. Terry
stated he has included language in the contracts for the City purchase
of service arrangements this year which indicates that the agencies
must cooperate with YAP. He indicated that it has been called to his
attention that OCFS goes even further by requiring a "no refuse
policy" in their contracts. Roy stated that It may make a difference
since YAP requires additional service from the agenclos. Colleton
summarized that they really need the agencies to realize that they
cannot duck the hard cases. General discussion followed which
Included that there needs to be some training on how to service the
high risk. It was mentioned that YAP is not the only Committee that
Is concerned about the high risk families falling through the cracks.
Rutledge stated that you cannot ask an agency to do something that Is
not Included In their mission. Terry added that In the Unified
Budgeting Process, agencies state that they will serve all people.
Bukrey Indicated that agencies need to be trained to serve the high
risk families and youth. It was also stated that there may need to be
some street workers to reach the kids on the street who are not
referred to YAP. Wright Indicated that the agencies need to be
flexible in terms of fitting the clients into their guidellnes rather
than vice -versa. There should be more attempts to see these types of
clients more often and bear with them. It was also Indicated that it
should be recognized that the relationship betweeen service agencies
and the high risk client needs to be different from other
client/agency relationships because the high risk clients need a
closer relationship. Existing agencies need to develop the ability to
give "quick fixes" to these families while involving them In long term
services which are focused on helping them develop the ability to
independently sustain their lives.
With the help of Committee members and YAP staff, Colleton developed a
summary list of changes that ESOs must make to serve high risk youth.
1. Must attempt to reach high risk youth through family.
2. Cannot refuse to serve high risk youth or cooperate with YAP.
3. Staff training to effectively serve high risk youth.
4. Street presence ala street worker concept.
5. Outreach delivery.
5. Must be flexible.
7. Long term and Intensive.
8. Must be committed to and accept where clients are tat
present).
9. Utilize churches, extended family and others within the
community.
10. Address concrete needs as part of service.
There was some discussion on whether there was any agency which taught
parenting skills to the parents of high risk youth. Programs exist
Youth Advocacy Program Advisory Committee, June 21, 1990 3
for teen parents, but little exists for the adult parents. Lane
stated that it would be beneficial to encourage high risk families to
Interact with the churches to learn the values and skills. Kerin
remarked that there is some resistance on the part of the youth to
Interact with the churches. Bukrey indicated that resources need to
be developed by going to the community, extended family, the
neighborhood churches, centers, and street corners rather than
expecting the traditional agencies to change their ways of operating.
The Committee then developed a list of five (5) key changes that
needed to be addressed to accomplish the mission of the program:
1. Political power to compel change.
2. Lower Youth Advocate to client ratio from 15 to 10.
3. Fill service gaps (all home or community based services) such
as:
a. re -parenting skills
b. counseling (individual and family)
c. housing and other basic needs
d. substance abuse
e. money management and homemaking
4. Rower ellglblity age of YAP referrals from 11 years to 9
years old
5. Develop improved ways of addressing educational needs of
Black males in the primary grades
in summary Colleton asked how does the Committee make the points
listed heard and If the listed points are changed, then will the
family outcomes change? Terry stated that outcomes will change but,
he feels that changing the structure of the agencies will not be as
effective as the major system changes such as 11 and 13.
Building some political concensus to make changes was discussed. Roy
stated that the people with fiduciary responsibilites to services need
to feel comfortable about their decisions. Thera Is a need for
support for the programs to be evident. Terry indicated that there is
no Identified, effective spokesman or supporting elected official who
1s the expert for high risk youth. What is developing is a new call
for the appointment for such an official. Bukrey Indicated that
creating such a position is not the answer to the problems for high
risk youth.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:05 p.m.
Carey Wright, Staff
Notes
YOUTH ADVOCACY PROGRAM ADVISORY COMMITTEE
November 15, 1990
7:00 P.M.
PRESENT: Michael DeVaul, Fran Bukrey, Bob Rutledge, Dan Moses,
Manuel Isquierdo, Jay Terry
It was established that a quorum was not present and that minutes were not
available from the previous meeting. Therefore, this did not constitute an
official meeting, but rather was an informal discussion of issues. Mr. Terry
acknowledged there had been some discussion about cancelling the meeting in
view of the fact that Don Colleton was out of town, and he was aware of other
Advisory Committee members who could not attend. However, he felt it was
important that there be a meeting held in view of two significant
developments regarding the program, and that it was important to begin a
process for Committee input regarding those issues.
The two issues are:
I. Carey Wright had submitted his resignation as Youth Services
Coordinator, and his last day with the City of Evanston was November
I6th.
2. As a result of recent City Council priority setting sessions and a
concern about the impending budget deficit, and a concern about the
effectiveness of both the YAP program and the Police Department
Youth Outreach Program; that there was discussion of a new program
in the next budget year being a joint program of both Youth Outreach
and YAP and a strong desire that there be feedback from the members
of the YAP Advisory Committee about such a proposal.
Mr. Terry reviewed some of the history of YAP and why he felt the perception
of the program was not what it could be. He felt the program had sustained a
number of credibility blows during the years it had existed. Some of the
issues highlighted were the relationship between the program and the Youth
Coalition, which had created it and the Advisory Committee. He felt that the
move to have the Advocates become City employees was a decision that caused a
lot of hurt feelings from which the program had difficulty recovering; that
the high Advocate turnover the program experienced had led to less than total
confidence in the program; that the controversy regarding the Ehrensaft
report had undermined confidence in the program, and the Advisory Committee
was diverted to come out with their own evaluative report; that the program
never did get the data from the schools and Police Department needed to
measure the program; that leadership in the program had been an issue which a
lot of people had not wished to confront directly; that the program never
clearly articulated its goals and objectives; that it remained a vague
program.
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A discussion ensued among the meeting participants, and some of the points
raised were: it was very important that any newly designed program would
have the input of the two school districts; Leadership was a problem with the
YAP program and that the key to any new program would be the new leadership.
questions were raised as to what were the precise issues the City Council had
raised relative to the two youth programs, and what was the thinking in the
Council as to why the two programs could merge; a reluctance to give up on
the concept of YAP; a feeling that there needed to be a sorting out of what
was successful about YAP and what was not successful, and a need to try and
retain those most successful elements; a belief that one more critical issue
regarding community perceptions of YAP was a decision somewhere along the way
that the coordination role was dropped for a more direct service, therapeutic
role and this was not a good decision; that the program identified certain
kids and felt it had to save certain kids. questions that were raised by the
meeting participants included: what is the City's commitment?; what is the
agencies' commitment?; how is it measured?; is there any concensus?; what is
the central need for the program right now and what is the direction the
program needs to go? Consensus was that a special Advisory Committee meeting
needed to be held with as many members as possible bringing everyone up to
date with some written materials ahead of time. It was noted that the burden
was on the program to prove itself, not on the program's detractors prove
that it doesn't work; feeling that the program had never really articulated
its outcomes or its activities appropriately. It was noted that the group
who had originally designed the program did not embrace it. 'there was some
thought that perhaps YAP was designed to fail; some comments about a two
tiered service system. The consensus was that Mr. Terry would call Don
Colleton to set up a special Committee meeting; there needed to be an
identification of those things that went right with YAP; that there would be
notes from the meeting so that all Advisory Committee members would
understand the context of the discussion. Also, it was felt that it was key
for this meeting to be held as a presentation by Dan Moses on the current
activities of the Youth Outreach Bureau of the Police Department.