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ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
January 19, 1989 ;
7:00 P.M.
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Members Don Colleton, Epifanio Reyther, Bob Roy, Dan Moses, ;
Present: Bo Price, Fran Bukvey, Delores Holmes, Stan Payne, Manuel
Isquierdo, Bob Rutledge, Kathleen Hargrove, hike DeVaul
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Absent: John Lane, Jr., Rev. Zollie Webb
Staff Carey Wright, Kate Kerrin, Helen McCarthy, Bernard Turner,
Present: Corey Smith ;
Presiding: Don Colleton, Chair
Don Colleton called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m. Don introduced Dan h
Moans as a new member of the Co rai ttee. He reYor :ed that. Michael Murphy had f
resigned from the Committee, due to professional and personal commitments.
If anyone has suggestions for new members, let Don know.
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The minutes of the October 6, 1988 meeting were approved unanimously. The f
minutes of the December 1, 1988 meeting were amended as follows:
Page 3, paragraph 3, line 6 was a.-aended to delete "Bob Rutledge" from
t„a subcc..;. 'A 'tea .
With this change, the minutes were approved unanimously. `
SERVICE REPORTS FOR OCTOBE . NOVENB E3 z DECE`SBER. 1-988
Carey said that the October and November reports had been resubmitted
because some information had not been complete when presented at the
December meeting. :he Committee reviewed the December retort. Manny
Inquierdo asked that the initial figures regarding number of referrals made,
intake intarviews rafarral.3 a..:cs.ta:! Int: v6D be _I __ _ f aA e^ *hat- a �
to _add be ww = n,,Mber C` mess not ,qt s*i"-rl and number
not accepted into the program. He also asked whether "Cases Terminated"
referred to cases terminated for reasons such as moving from Evanston or for
a successful outcome where services are no longer neece:.. Ca= n j expla::cu
that ►hero is a t,?--nination process which includes a to =ira_ior form which
identifies the reasons for termination. No case would be terminated without
the ad?v:_r Carey 'w:rb ;:e:_cc..._ w.rh tt
initial referral agency.
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There was also discussion about the reasons for referral identified in the
Service Report. Sometimes these reasons may be symptoms and not the
underlying causes. The Committee agreed it would be interested in the
underlying causes of problems as well as symptoms; however, it was agreed
that this might be hard to include in a monthly report. These issues are
included as part of the intake information and would be part of the
eval;:ati ^ z2nd'_cted by Ken rhrensaft.
The Committee requested that the YEAR-TO-DATE heading include a description
of the time period covered, i.e., June 1 to the present. The Committee
requested that the list of referring agencies only include those agencies
who have referred cases. As new agencies refer cases, they can be
included. In response to a question Carey clarified that the original
proposal anticipated each advocate having up to 15 cases. Therefore, the
total cases in the program would be 45.
REVIEW QE DRAFT QUARTERLY REPORT TO HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE
The Committee reviewed the draft report prepared by Carey for the time
period of August 1 through December 31, 1983. Don acked the Cc=i ttee for
comments - both on the content and the format of the report. The Committee
had a lengthy discussion on the gaps in service delivery listed on page 4.
Manny was concerned that some language appeared overly critical of existing
programs. He questioned the statement ttat the "rer:-:ca da'_.re.y s ste= his
r,3t L nga-Td y-.utt in fami' ,ag refer-4 to YAP." Don explained
his understanding that .`.Lis statement 1t =eant to focus on these particular
high risk youth referred through YAP. It is not meant to be critical of the
overall youth service delivery system in its services to the overall youth
population. Ratner, for this small group, something more needs to ce done.
Others pointed out that the whole point of the Youth Advocacy Program is to
serve families who have not been effectively served through existing
programs. Therefore, this is merely a statement of what is already
understood by t�:e Human services Committee. Concern was expressed that some
of the statements regarding gaps may be developed based on only several
cases and we may not to ready to =ahe these statements w:t":^u-t more
information. Carey said that these are based on the YAP cases to date and
that was his intention in including them now. Suggestions were made
regarding rewarding some of the statements to make clear that they refer to
a fairly small base of information and may not reflect the larger picture.
Lu vat d `"at 4ti • ► ~ .d neutral in f`n
Fran 3 �ey uoo_ste _.� �..e sta,.e�z:a..s .,e made more .. _ e
rather than criticizing the agencies unduly. Sometimes there may be
enormous problems in cave faadly whii:h mat' -.a the 'L=:_y a:t_=Gr�.-nar.j j
The suggestion was made that we hold off communicating gaps in service
delivery until we have more information, say in several :r w:.en tie
O.r AI, -,Or inn is rnmIlated. Others strongly expressed the need to communicate
gaps in service delivery indicated for the youth in the program right away,
as this w=: ^_':_ ..« etc =--oi..}_ ma_ndat?5 cf ;Le
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It was agreed that a section regarding gaps in service delivery would be
included in the report. Carey will redraft the statements to indicate the
information on which they are based. At Nike Devaul's suggestion, Carey
will share this section of the report with the Coalition of Youth Service '
Agencies to see whether the agencies would generally agree or disagree with
these statements.
The Committee made several suggestions regarding the statistical reporting
format. The Committee agreed to review the entire report again at its
February meeting with the intent of submitting it to the .4,-,man Services
Committee for the February 27 meeting.
CONTRACT CO.TSIDE°ATrp."t FOR ? 999-90
Don Colleton reminded the Committee that it will have to make a
recommendation regarding agency contracts for the Marc- 1 fiscal year. He
will prepare information for the Committee to review at its February meeting.
SUBCO'M117 EE CIN NISSICN GOALS CF vna P CGaAW
Don Colleton reported cn 3. subc_:-mittee meeting on de7eloping a mission of
the program. He said that Carey had prepared a process for the Committee to
participate in this evening. Dua to lack of t!me, t::is :ail? :.a~e to be
postponed for ancth3r meeting. Each C^:^:»'ttee member r4id briefly state his �
or her view of the mission of the Program. This will be expanded on at the �
February meeting.
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The meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
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Helen McCarthy, Staff
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MINUTES
YOUTH ADVOCACY PROGRAM
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
March 2, 1989
7:00 P.M.
Present: Don Colleton, Fran Bukrey, Delores Holmes, Mike DeVaul,
Manuel Isquierdo, Dan Hoses, Epifanio Reyther,
Absent: Bob Roy, Kathy Hargrove, Stan Payne, Bob Rutledge, Bo
Price
Staff Carey Wright, Bernard Turner, Kate Kerrin, Helen McCarthy
Present:
Presiding: Don Colleton, Chair
Don Colleton called the meeting to order at 7:15 p.m. He announced that
this meeting was called to replace the February 19► 1989 meeting due to a
lack of a quorum.
MINUTES
the minutes of the January 19, 1989 meeting of the Youth Advocacy Program
(YAP) Advisory Committee were approved unanimously.
ACTIVITY AND SERVICE REPORT (JANUARY 1989)
Carey noted several corrections to the January report which will be
corrected in the February report. He noted that there are 25 open YAP
cases as of January 31, 1989.
REVISED REPORT TO HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE
The Committee reviewed the revised report (august through January) to be
submitted to the Human Services Committee. Carey reported that the
Coalition of Youth Service Agencies had reviewed the Draft - Gaps in
Services and generally supported them. Carey had deleted 2 gaps included
in the draft report in order to collect additional information in the
coming months. The Committee approved the submission of this report to the
Human Services Committee.
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REVIEW OF ADVOCATE AGENCY CONTRACTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 1989-90
Don Coll.eton reported that he and Helen McCarthy had met with Delores
Holmes, Don Baker and Ron Dombrowski regarding the continuation of
contracts with Family Focus, Y.O.U., and Evanston Hospital respectively.
He asked the Committee for a motion to recommend approval of these agencies
to provide advocacy services for next year at the dollar level ($31,000)
included in the YAP budget. He asked for staff to have latitude to
negotiate special conditions with the agencies as staff sees fit.
Manny asked for feedback regarding the current organizational structure and
how the 3 agency model is working. Carey described certain continuing
issues related to this program model, namely the time consumed with
maintaining the communication necessary between all parties and the
variation between the agencies in how services are provided to clients.
Given this program structure, changes will be proposed to the agencies to
improve the program functioning. For program year number two, he wants to
create clear standards for the agencies to use in delivery of services. It
is important to give the same message to all, three agencies and to the
clients served by those agencies. Now that we have a Mission Statement, it
can be communicated to them. Delores said the Advisory Committee and staff
must decide and state clearly its expectations of agencies; then the
agencies can decide whether they want to participate.
Helen reminded the Committee that in December, 1988, it had met with the
agency representatives to hear their views on the strengths and weaknesses
of the structure. Then the Committee decided to spend time focusing on
program mission because it might give some direction as to structure.
Since a proposed mission statement has been developed, it makes sense to
return the Committee's attention to the organizational structure issue.
The Committee agreed to discuss this at a future meeting. We do not yet
have enough information to assess the organizational structure.
Mike DeVaul moved, seconded by Manny Isquierdo, to approve Family Focus,
Y.O.U., and Evanston Hospital to provide the Youth Advocacy Services for
the 1989-90 year. The motion was approved unanimously (Delores Holmes
abstained). This recommendation will be presented to the Human Services
Committee and the City Council on March 13.
MISSION STATEMENT SUBCOnMITTEE REPORT
Don Colleton reported that the mission subcommittee had developed a
proposed Mission Statement. This statement was placed on the blackboard
and the Committee members made changes.
Mission Statement: "To facilitate the effective delivery of needed
services to high risk youth (with multiple problems and without
regard to severity) through advocacy based on an articulated plan
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which: 1) centers on the youth; 2) coordinates existing services;
3) identifies service gaps; 4) favors community delivery; S) accepts
the need for non-traditional case management (including the delivery
of concrete services as needed); 6) persists until.....
The Committee discussed several examples of tough case problems, including
the difficulty in "engaging" youth and families in services. The
difficulty in serving a youth where the immediate living environment is so
negative that it is clear that it must be changed if the youth is to have a
chance. The Committee agreed that the Mission Statement will be considered
a flexible statement that may be changed as the need arises.
The Committee adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
Helen McCarthy, Staff r
CE9=11ZED A IUORITY
Description
Youth Services Coordinator (YSC)
directs the Intake and initial case
plan and directs the services pro-
vided by Advocates. Agency
Supervisor serves as resource person
to Advocate in implementing this plan
but Advocate's direction comes from
YSC.
Advantages
1. Clear line of authority -
therefore minimal confusion.
2. More efficient use of time.
3. Cases will be handled relatively
consistently-i.e., a YAP philosphy
and practice will be followed more
consistently with this model than
others.
Disadvantages
1. Role of Agency Supervisor is some-
what nebulous. If Agency has
minimal influence/direction over
Advocate, then why have Advocate
employed by Agency?
2. Liability concerns of Agency:
What if agency disagrees with YSC
direction? Who is responsible?
3. Extremely demanding on YSC - must
provide supervision and support to
3 outposted Advocates, as well as
administrative responsibilities.
.4. Potential isolation of Advocates
(advocates not part of agency and
also hnve limited YAP team
coatncts)
Youth Services Coordinator (YSC)
directs the Intake and initial case
plan. YSC periodically (at least once
per month) reviews the services pro-
vided by Advocates and negotiates with
Agency regarding needed changes.
Advocate is supervised by Agency
Supervisor and YSC on cases.
1. Maintains variety of input regarding
difficult cases -maximizes brainstorm-
ing and creative problem solving.
2. Promotes increased communication
and coordination between agencies.
1. Very- time consuming, and therefore
Inefficient.
2. Role confusion and blurred bound-
aries. Advocate may be caught
between Supervisor and YSC on day-
to-day basis.
3. Lack of consistency between cases,
because each case plan is negoti-
ated individually.
4. Difficult to assure that standards
for service delivery are met.
5. high stress for Advocates, YSC
and supervisors.
For Discussion re YAP Organizational
Hodels for 1989--90
Youth Services Coordinator (YSC) directs
the Intake and initial case plan.
Agency is responsible for delivery of
services according to the plan. YSC
reviews service implementation every 3
months. Advocate is supervised by
Agency Supervisor, with consultation
provided by YSC, as needed
1. Relatively clear line of authority.
After initial Case Plan, case
directed by Agency.
2. Model allows for different agency
styles and methods.
1. Lack of consistency between cases,
since Agencies will make key service
decisions.
2. Difficult to assure that standards
for service delivery are met.
3. YAP identity is minimized - Advocate
may identify more with agency than
with YAP.
4. Although Coordinator is responsible
for program, has very little direct
authority over service decisions.
5. Potential high for "second guessing"
by Coordinator after agency has
handled case.
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Minutes
YOUTH ADVOCACY PROGRAM
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
March 16, 1989
7:00 P.M.
Present: Don Colleton, Fran Bukrey, Epifanio Reyther, Bob Roy, Mike
DeVaul, Manuel Isquierdo, Dan Moses, Stan Payne, Bob
Rutledge
Absent: Bo Price, Delores Holmes, Kathy Hardgrove
Staff Carey Wright, Helen McCarthy, Ken Ehrensaft (Consultant)
Present:
Presiding: Don Colleton, Chair
Don Colleton called the meeting to order at 7:OS p.m.
MINUTES
The minutes of the March 2. 1989 Youth Advocacy Program (YAP) Advisory
Committee were amended as follows:
Page 3, paragraph 2. line 5 was amended to state: the Committee
unanimously adopted the above Mission Statement. It will be
considered a flexible statement that may be changed as the need arises.
With this change, the minutes were approved unanimously.
ACTIVITY & SERVICE REPORT FOR FEBRUARY. 1989
The Committee requested that the reference date for "year -to -date" figures be
included on the report. In response to a question about Item F: Referring
Agency under "Others," Carey Wright recalled that the Center for Public
Ministry and Kaleidoscope had been two of those agencies. The Committee
requested that when an agency had made a referral that it be added to the
named Referring Agency list. Carey pointed out that as of March 1, we will
be starting a new reporting year to coincide with the Citp's fiscal year.
Future reports will be in a somewhat different format reporting cases based
on the 1989-90 year but including information on on -going cases from the past
year. He noted that there have been five additional case referrals in the
month of March.
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The Committee discussed how YAP should respond at the point that the caseload
is considered full. From the outset it was planned that an Advocate would
not carry more than 15 cases. Carey pointed out that some cases take
considerably more time than others depending upon the need. It was agreed
that it would be helpful to know approximately how many hours each Advocate
is spending on each case. We will need to develop a process for carefully
selecting cases based on how they fit the YAP criteria. This has been
refined somewhat due to the development of the Mission Statement. Cases
which may have been accepted at the start of the program may not need to be
YAP cases; rather these cases could perhaps be served by existing agencies.
The issue of how long a case remains a YAP case was also discussed. There
were different views expressed as to whether a case should be considered on a
long term basis even if significant progress was not being shade. Bob
Rutledge said that it may be useful to make a distinction between situations
where we are trying to fill a service gap for a client and where we are
trying to engage a client to use existing services. There may be an
"intractable agency" as well as an "intractable client." In such a situation
the YAP mission may be to work with the agency to expand its ability to work
with these clients. Fran spoke to the need for a "safety net" for these
clients, either from the family, the agencies or the advocate. Don Colleton
summarized the discussion to say that at this point we have not quite
exhausted our ability to accept additional cases. However, this point will
come. We will need to be more selective about the cases we accept. We will
need to decide which cases can be moved off the caseload because we have
filled a service gap. We will need to carefully review those cases which we
can't engage and we will need to find ways to stretch our resources to serve
our caseload,
The Committee agreed to follow the caseload question carefully in the future
months.
UPDATE ON PROGRAM EVALUATION
Bob Rutledge reported that the evaluation subcommittee had met on several
occasions to review the program evaluation plans of the consultant, Ken
Ehrensaft. Ken will review approximately variables. Ken Ehrensaft
summarized the proposed study which is a 19 page survey instrument including
a profile on the youth and the family, history of social service involvement,
a summary of YAP activities and information regarding service outcome. The
YAP advocate will complete the instrument regarding each youth. Concerns
were raised by Committee members that the information as reported by the
advocates needs to be verified by other sources. The advocate may have a
natural need to see progress based on his or her involvement. Information
from the schools and other agencies should be part of the evaluation.
Committee members also recommended that the client and/or family have an
opportunity to report their perception of the impact of the program. Perhaps
a parent could be interviewed by someone other than the advocate to get this
information. The subcommittee was asked to work with Ken on these
suggestions.
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Ken reported on how he will evaluate the question of the effectiveness of
this organizational structure. First he will diagram the structure. Then he
will look at how this structure does or does not achieve the program mission
and goals. He will interview Carey, the advocates, and a number of agency
representatives to look at how communication occurs and how problems are
solved. Bob Rutledge pointed out the need to not just look at whether the
structure can achieve the mission and goals; but rather how to discern
whether a success or failure in meeting the goals can be attributable to the
organizational structure or to some other factor.
DISCUSSION OF THE YAP ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE FOR FISCAL YEAR 1989-90
The Committee reviewed the chart prepared by Helen and Carey which outlined
three models for operating within the current organizational structure of
three agencies and the City.
Due to lack of time, the Committee agreed that this will be the major item on
the agenda for the April 27 meeting. Bob Rutledge suggested that a brief
time be given for Carey to review the advantages and disadvantages listed in
the chart and to give his perception of the structure question. Then each
Committee member should be given an opportunity to briefly state his or her
views on the question prior to a Committee decision being reached. The
Committee agreed to this process.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
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Helen McCarthy, Staff U
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YOUTH ADVOCACY PROGRAM
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
May Is, 1989
7:00 P.M.
Present: Don Colleton, Fran Bukrey, Kathy Hardgrove, Delores
Holmes, Manuel Isquierdo, Epifanio Reyther, Bob Roy, Dan
Moses, Stan Payne, Bo Price, Bob Rutledge
Absent: Bike DeVaul
Staff Carey Wright, Helen McCarthy, Corey Smith, Bernard Turner,
Present: Kate Kerrin, Ken Ehrensaf t (Consultant)
Presiding: Don Colleton, Chair
Don Colleton called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m.
MINUTES
The minutes of the March 16, 1989 Youth Advocacy Program (YAP) Advisory
Committee were approved unanimously. Don Colleton announced that due to
several last minute cancellations there was not a quorum at the April 27
meeting. Several Committee members present decided to form a subcommittee to
review the question of organizational structure. A report from this
subcommittee will be presented later in the meeting.
ACTIVITY AND SERVICE REPORT/KARCH & APRIL 1989
Carey noted that in March and April seven new referrals had come to the
program. If all of these referrals are accepted the program will be close to
its maximum caseload. He noted that the statistical report for March, April
and Kay will be distributed for the next Advisory Committee meeting.
RECOKMENDATION FOR RESTRUCTURING YAP ORGANIZATIONAL STRUC*17RE
Don Colleton summarized the recommendation of the subco=ittee including Bob
Rutledge, Manny Isquierdo, Fran Bukrey, Kathy Hardgrove and himself. The
subcommittee had reviewed the various problems associated with the current
structure including the time spent by Carey, the Advocates and the agency
supervisors in communicating about cases and in making decisions; the lack of
consistency in how cases are handled by the three agencies; the continued
lack of clarity of roles of the Youth Services =oordinator and the
supervisors and various administrative issues associated with the varying
agency administrative styles. Based on the above, the subcommittee makes a
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two pronged proposal: 1) All three advocates should be moved under the direct
supervision and authority of the Youth Services Coordinator, with no direct
supervision being provided by agencies. This may mean placing the advocates
on the City payroll and placing them either together or separately in
neighborhood locations. 2) The YAP Advisory Committee should ask all of the
service agencies to join us in the mission to better serve high risk and hard
to reach families. We have recognized that YAP cannot affect change by
itself; all agencies need to commit to this effort. He used the example of
the successful HMO which is successful to the extent that it 1) practices
good management and 2) is successful in achieving changes in the practice
patterns of physicians. YAP can not and should not replace agencies; rather,
it should assist in influencing agencies to change practice patterns in
relation to hard to reach families. Bob Rutledge, as a subcommittee member,
summarized his view of the short term and long term goals of the YAP
program. Short term. YAP's goal is to provide consistently effective
services to the families in the program. Long term, YAP's goal is to help
serving giving agencies gear themselves toward serving these families
better. The YAP families are unique, very difficult to reach, and require
innovative approaches and solutions. YAP can serve as a good pilot program
to develop a plan for accomplishing the long term goal. :canny Isquierdo
noted Carey's unique perspective on the youth system. Since he is looking at
the total youth/family needs from a general perspective and not in relation
to a particular need or vantage point such as school, counseling, housing,
etc. He emphasized the important of maintaining a community -wide commitment
to serving high -risk youth. He added that the recommendation that the
advocates not be supervised by the host agencies is in no way a poor
reflection on the agencies, but rather an attempt to increase efficiency and
effectiveness and not spend so much time building consensus between the
various parties.
Bob Roy said that this proposal is not a significant change from his original
understanding of how the program should operate. He always saw Carey as
having authority over the actions of the advocates. He believes that some
form of contract with the agencies should be maintained, since it is
important to maintain their involvement. If advocates are City employees,
other agencies may view this program as just another City program and not be
as involved. Also, the host agencies provide important resources to the
advocates. Finally, if the program is just a City staffed program, it may be
more vulnerable to potential budget cuts. He added that even if all service
agencies have a commitment to these hard to reach fani!:es, this will not be
enough. The schools, churches and community need to take a part as well.
Ken Ehrensaft, consultant for the program, reported on his findings regarding
program structure. He will have a written report available next week. He
has conducted ten interviews with Carey, the advocates, and agency
supervisors regarding the structure issue. In addition, he has reviewed
intensively 17 cases. (Incidentally, his findings regarding the case reviews
are that staff are doing a fine job. This will be _eported on in greater
detail in his subsequent evaluation reports) Based on his interviews, he
found that the current structure creates a high 'level of stress for
employees, role confusion, and a slow down in decision making. He had the
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following recommendations regarding the organizational structure:
1. All advocates should report to the Coordinator
2. Coordinator should have greater authority and flexibility for
directing the program.
He had additional observations including a question about the narrow profile
of the YAP client (generally black, low income); question about why most
referrals come from only a few agencies; a recognition that all service
agencies will need to outreach more to this client population, which will
require a change in delivery practices; and that, possibly, City funding
should be tied to new service initiatives to high risk families.
Stan Payne said that some of these problems in the organizational structure
could have been prevented by having the title of the "Youth Service
Coordinator" position "Youth Services Director". Then there would have been
no doubt about who is in charge. He expressed some concern about breaking
the contracts with the host agencies. Don Colleton and Helen McCarthy
clarified that based on the lack of resolution regarding the organizational
structure issue, the City had not provided the host agencies with contracts
for 1989-90; rather the agencies have been paid on a month -to -month basis.
Fran Bukrey pointed to the need for a strong YAP point of view and
philosophy. That philosophy needs to be communicated in a concrete way to
the agencies. This will affect how agencies look at services to other
clients.
Manny Isquierdo moved, seconded by Fran Bukrey,
report to the Coordinator for all management and
will be no supervisory responsibilities for the
moved, seconded by Kathy Hardgrove, an amendment
the title of the Youth Services Coordinator be
Director. On the amendment Dan Moses pointed ou
could create an impression that the Director dii
the community. This would create a problem for s
all Three advocates should
supervision and that there
host agencies. Stan Payne
to the motion to add that
changed to Youth Services
that the title "Director"
ects all youth services in
any of -he agencies. 'canny
talked about the threatening nature of that title to other agencies. Bob
Rutledge said he does not favor that change because the Job is too big to be
titled "Director". The "Director" role should be clear in relation to the
advocates; however, this is only a piece of his responsibility, the other
responsibility being to coordinate and influence other agencies. The
Coordinator title speaks to this better. Kathy Hardgrove noted that the
position will clearly direct the advocates but will coordinate other youth
services. Carey said that it is clear that the position will become
threatening as the Coordinator brings issues to the foref:3nt and attempts to
change ways service is delivered. He noted that ti:'_es often affect how
other people respond to a position.
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The motion to amend the motion was defeated; 2 ayes, 8 nays, 1 abstention
(Delores Holmes abstaining). The main motion was approved unanimously
(Delores Holmes abstaining).
The Committee then discussed how to implement having the advocates directly
report to Carey. The advantages and disadvantages of having the advocates
employed by the City were reviewed. One alternative is to cancel the current
contracts with the agencies, have the advocates become City employees and then
outpost them to other agencies; possibly even having alternating outposts.
The other alternative is to change the contracts with the existing agencies to
clarify the relationships. (Epifanio Reythev was excused from the meeting)
Manny Isouierdo moved, seconded by Kathy Hardgrove, that host agencies serve
as City fiduciary agents to provide a standardized salary and benefit package
in accordance with City direction, and to provide an outpost for some period
of time for a youth advocate. The motion was approved: 8 ayes, 0 nays, 2
abstentions (Delores Holmes and Stan Payne abstained). Don spoke to
questions which still need to be resolved in this new relationship, namely
that we need to clarify who is the employer and who incurs the liability. He
asked Helen to pursue this with the Corporation Counsel. It was agreed that
there should be some reduction in the contract amount for the overhead costs
since the agencies will not be providing supervision.
With the notion that the host agencies will have fiduciary and not programatic
responsibilities and will be there primarily as an outreach outpost, it was
agreed that Evanston Hospital would no longer be an appropriate outpost
agency. Bob Rutledge moved, seconded by Manny Isquierdo, that the contract
with Evanston Hospital not be continued and that Carey return to the Advisory
Committee at its next meeting with other options for an outpost agencv. At
that time, Carey can present his recommendation for how the advocates should
be housed including whether the advocates and Carey should have some central
location for part of the time with other outposts for the remainder. The
motion was passed unanimously (Delores Holmes abstained).
The Committee agreed that these recommendations should be taken to the Human
Services Committee at their June 12 meeting.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
Helen McCarthy, Staff
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Members Present:
Members Absent:
Staff Present:
DRAFT - NOT APPROVED
YOUTH ADVOCACY PROGRAM
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
JUNE 18, 1989
7:00 P.M.
Fran Bukrey, Don Colleton, Chairman; Micheal
DeVaul, Stan Payne, Epifanio Reyther, Boy Roy, Bob
Rutledge
Kathleen Hardgrove, Delores Holmes,Manny
lsquierdo, Dan Moses, Bo Price
Ken Ehrensaft (consultant), Kate Kerin, Carey
Wright
Presiding Official: Don Colleton, Chairman
(Prior to the beginning of the meeting Ken Ehrensaft distributed a
revised copy of his "Evaluation of the Youth Advocacy Organizational
Structure".)
CALL TO ORDER
Don Colleton called the meeting to order at 7:20 p.m.
MINurEs
The minutes of the May 18, 1989 meeting were amended as follows:
Page 2, paragraph 3 was amended to clarify and state Bob Roy's
concern with restructuring YAP as a City program:
1) it could be perceived as being competitive with other
agencies for funding.
2) we may lose community (agency) Investment in the
program.
With this change, the minutes were approved unanimously.
tICTIVITY AND SERVICE REPORTS
As promised in the March 16 YAP Advisory Committee Meeting, Carey
noted that the monthly service report format had been revised to
provide only the most relevant information. Bob Rutledge stated the
new format was much easier to follow and was an Improvement even
though there was less Information. Other Committee members concurred
and agreed to sanction this format for reporting cilent Information.
Bob Roy wondered If YAP was considering purchasing a comou=er to
analyze cilent data that would be obtained as the program continues to
progress. Helen McCarthy stated as one of her last acts she Informed
Youth Advocacy Program Advisory Committee, June 18, 1989 3
entertain a motion to open discussion for reconsidering the Youth
Advocates as City employees. The motion was made and seconded by Bob
Roy for the purpose of getting the discussion on the floor.
Bob Roy shared at length many of the concerns of the orginal group of
service providers that developed the initial organizational structure.
The biggest concern now Is the perception that one entity (YAP) could
be in competition with another City agency (Youth Outreach). Helen
Injected that the functions of the two programs are distinctly
different. Bob said that the perception has to be addressed because
it was previously a major concern of the original group. He added
that If there are budget cutbacks, these Issues will be of
significance. On the other hand, Bob commented that the viewpoints of
YAP staff (Youth Service Coordinator and Youth Advocates) should be
considered as wail as the findings of the evaluation conducted by Ken
Ehrensaft. in summing up his remarks, Bob said the management
question of how to run the day to day program should be considered and
our long range plan should be defined.
Bob Rutledge stated that he joined the Advisory Committee for several
reasons: 1) to help create an entity that was a pilot to discuss ways
to reach troubled youth; 2) to facilitate ideas that we (Committee)
generated that would be adopted by the service providers; 3) create a
platform involving service providers in a process of addressing the
issues of high risk youth. Involving community agencies needs to be a
part of the plan. What the Committee needs to determine Is a
mechanism and plan by which we can share our insights with others.
Don Colleton agreed and concluded the next task of the Committee is to
develop a strategy to organize our efforts more closely with the
Coalition. Carey mentioned that the Coalition has sanctioned YAP to
provide monthly reports on issues relevant to serving high risk youth.
At the next meeting, YAP Is scheduled to make a case presentation on
the dynamics of serving high risk youth.
Ken Ehrensaft reported on the final outcome of this study on the
organizational structure. Ken summarized the report by restating that
In spite of the efforts of YAP staff, there were truly problems In the
current structure that needed to be addressed and resolved. After
discussing several areas of concern, he added that there is evidence
to Indicate the technology or services may not exist to .-neet their
needs. Ken recommended the Youth Advocates should report 3o cne
supervisor In order to Increase consistency throughout t;ie grogram
because some inequities currently exist.
Don Collation questioned whether there was a motion to .take the Youth
Advocates City employees. The motion was moved and seconded. The
motion to recommend Youth Advocates to become City employees was
approved with (6) six ayes and (i) one nay from Bob Roy. However, he
stated that he would fully support the motion of the Committee. Stan
stated that anyone that followed our minutes would think we donIt know
what we want to do. One month we vote one way and then co another way
Youth Advocacy Program Advisory Committee, June 18, 1989 2
the City Manager of a memo she received Jointly from YAP, The Mental
Health Board and the Commission on Aging regarding their collective
computer needs. She Insured the Committee that the matter would be
evaluated and addressed. Don Colleton questioned whether future
service reports would be floating or quarterly? Carey stated his
initial intentions were to make them quarterly but he,would assess the
feasibility of a floating report.
QUARTERLY ACTIVITY AND SESM ICE REPORT
Carey informed the Committee that we are scheduled to provide a
quarterly report on YAP to the Human Services Committee on July 10,
1989. Don Colleton requested. members share comments on the "draft" of
the quarterly report which was Included in the monthly packet. Stan
Payne asked how many more clients could be referred to the program.
He also wondered once a client is In the program, what were some of
the reasons a client would be terminated. Several Committee members
stated it would be useful to discuss some of the reasons for
termination as well as accomplishments with clients. Stan said maybe
we could have clients come to a meeting and share their impressions of
the program or perhaps YAP staff could relate some of the aspects of
t their work that have been meaningful.
The Committee approved the Quarterly Report for submission, but, Carey
stated he would like to make several additions to the section "Goals
for the Next Quarter".
REASSESSMENT OF MOTIONS TO CHANGE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE
Uon Colleton recalled his excitement over the motions adopted by the
Committee on May 18 recommending:
1) all three advocates should report to the Youth Services
Coordinator for all management and supervision and there
would be no supervisory responsibilities for the Host
Advocate Agencies.
2) that Bost Advocate Agencies (Family Focus and Y.O.U.) serve
as City fiduciary agents to provide a standarlxed salary and
benefit package in accordance with the City direction and to
provide an outpost for the Advocates.
Don went on to explain the rationale for recommending fiduciary
contracts was established In order not to create the perception that
YAP would be a free standing agency competing with other youth service
providers for funding and clients. Rather we were In fact interested
in providing the best possible program that Gould get the job done In
helping high risk youth and changing the systems that deliver services
to them. He went on to state that we all knew there was an unknown
element In recommending fiduciary contracts and had been Informed by
Carey and Helen that under the City health Insurance plan only
employees of the City are eligible for benefits. With the problems of
establishing tiducIary contracts Don asked if the Committee would
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Youth Advocacy Program Advisory Committee, June 18, 1989 4
the next month. He said the vote should have went this way the first
time. Fran Indicated that the coalition needed to be informed
regarding changes in YAP structure. Committee members said it was the
Advisory Committee's responsibility to address questions regarding
decisions it had ,made. In no way should this change In structure be
perceived as coming from the Youth Services Coordinator. Rather the
Youth Services Coordinator's power works through the Influence of the
Committee. Members agreed that the function of the Committee must be
clarified if YAP is truly going to make a difference in the community.
Fran said the Youth Services Coordinator needs to be visible because
It conveys a message even if It is symbolic. Don Colletcn said the
sanction for YAP and the changes it recommends should come from
agencies within the coalition. Mike DeVaul said YAP can bring a
different atmosphere and perspective to agencies serving high risk
youth. He Informed the Committee of how the YMCA has been Impacted by
its involvement with YAP. The meeting concluded with Bob Rutledge
stating the Committee must be more involved in a leadership role.
The Commitee also sanctioned Don and Carey to prepare the necessary
documentation to be submitted to the Human Services Committee.
Due to the lack of time, the discussion of the Year End Report was
postponed to a future meeting.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
A farewell reception for Helen McCarthy Immediately followed.
Carey Wright, Staff
DRAFT - NOT APPROVED
YOUTH ADVOCACY PROGRAM
ADVISORY COl-%I I TTEE MEETING -
JULY 20, 1989
7:00 P.M.
Members Present: Don Colleton, Chairman; Kathleen Hardgrove,
Delores Holmes, Stan Payne, Bo Price, Epifanlo
Reyther, Boy Roy
Members Absent: Fran Bukrey, hllcheal DeVaul, Dan loses, Bob
Rutledge
Staff Present: Ken Ehrensaft (consultant), Kate Kerin. Bernard
Turner, Corey Smith, Carey Wright, Jeanne Fox,
( -lenta I Health Board)
Presiding Official: Don Colleton, Chairman
CALL TO ORQER
The meeting commenced at 7:15 p.m.
fMir,TES
A quorum of the Committee unanimously approved the minutes of the June
Ib 22, 1989 meeting.
ACTIVITY AND S RVICF REPO
Don Colleton asked Carey Wright to point out items in the reports that
Committee members should be made aware of. Carey requested that the
Committee review and address the issue at the end of the report that
asks, "How much does It matter where YAP is centrally located and
outposted?" He stated that he has explored potential sites at Reba
Fellowship (South Blvd.), First Baptist Church (Lake an! Chicago Ave.)
Family Focus -Our Place, ETHS, and the Civic Center. The Committee
agreed that YAP should remain located in the community and that the
Civic Center should not be considered due to the perception people may
have. Delores Holmes advocated that the program must remain in the
community if it is to be successful over the long run. ,cn Colleton
asked Carey for his recommendation. Carey indicated thaT if YAP is
located in areas with a concentration of high risk ycutn, It Aculd
increase the opportunities for contact with YAP clients. Therefore,
ETHS and Family Focus would Initially be prime sites for an outpost.
Carey stated that he has discussed this idea with Delores Holmes and
Manny Isquierdo. Although a site in South Evanston Is also desired as
an outpost, Carey infcried the Committee that Reba Fellowship Is
having zoning problems and it is not feasible for them to have their
site approved for youth services at this time. In response to a
question from 'Manny, Carey stated that if YAP is outposte� at ETHS and
Youth Advocacy Program Advisory Committee, July 20, 1989 2
Family Focus, he would continue to maintain his current office In
addition to being at Family Focus 2-3 days a week. Kathleen Hardgrove
asked Manny where would YAP be located at ETHS. ;Manny stated that the
-decision has not been approved by the Superintendent, but, he was
thinking of pIacIng YAP in the area next to Heairh Services and the
School Outreach workers.
After further discussion which addressed the need for YAP to remain
visible to all segments of high risk youth in Evanston, the Committee
voted and approved Family Focus and ETHS as initial sites for the
program pending approval by the Human Services Committee.
Carey announced that Eernard Turner was resigning his position as a
Youth Advocate effective July 31 to accept a position at a higher rate
of pay with less stress. Due to the fact that three Youth Advccates
have resigned In the first eighteen .,aonthS of operatics, Carey asked
Bernard to share his thoughts on the position. Eernard commented on
the stress he experienced with some of the youth and their families.
He stated, however, that he was encouraged with the plans to change
the structure of YAP because it would create a more supportive tear-4
among the staff. Bernard's final comment addresssed his desire to
participate, but he was not sure he would be allowed to verbally
participate at Advisory Committee meetings. Don Colletcn and other
Committee members aff'Irmed that the Comm Ittee greetings were an open
forum and Ycuth advocates as well as others are free to involve
themse I ves in the process.
July 10 f•ieetina with Human Services
Don Colleton summarized the July 10 meeting with the Human Services
Committee and the City Council. He indicated that the recommendation
to restructure YA.R was approved through the consent agenda. Seven
Advisory Committee members attended this meeting and were acknowledged
for their support.
Manny Isculerdo stated that the Committee needs to address several
questions raises by Tne Hunan Services Committee especially wnether
the program .;as achieving the goals It Set out to accomplish. He said
there needs to be measures of what we are accomplishing even If the
outcomes are different than what We axpacTec. Con ColleTen nac the
impression that the Human Services was supportive of YAP, put wanTed
to get acre feedack for the "bucks" they were putting into the
Program. Stan Payne restaTed that he would aT some poin- liKe to Know
how cases are terminated and if this process .was ever ,ju_ 4o
successful outcomes versus some other reasons. The Committee
requested that Carey bring up major service and program issues for
discussion aT the next meeting. Carey was also requested tc reviem
the minutes of the July 10 Health and Human Services meeting and
identify the specific issues Alderman Feldman and other Human Services
Committee members identified.
Youth Advocacy Program Advisory Committee, July 20, 1989 3
Don Colleton asked Carey for his impressions on the Human Services
meeting. Carey expressed that he had been surprised that the
restructuring Issue had passed so smoothly, but, he has received a
directive from the aldermen requesting "minutes" from previous and
future Advisory Committee meetings.
Carey asked whether the Committee would sanction him using the
Advisory Committee's name on particular memos and written
communications he has to address to various sources. After a
discussion which included some points of clarification by Jeanne Fox,
Director of Mental Health, the committee recommended that Carey should
bring all matters that effect policy to their attention and all other
matters should be addressed using the Youth Advocacy Program label.
However, 1t was agreed that certain communications (i.e. letters of
support) should Indicate the Advisory Committee's name.
Delores Holmes went on record to caution Advisiory Committee members
to help the Human Services Committee not to become overzealous
regarding the ;cork done by YAP and how it gill effect other agencies
in the community. They need to understand the distinction between
what Is existing now and what service providers were designed to do
versus what YAP Is designed to do. YAP exists basically because
service providers screed that the high risk population needed
specialized services that did not already exist. However, one entity
should not replace the other.
Role of Advisory Committee
Don Col leton stated the next phase is to see if we can get agencies to
commit or buy into addressing the needs of high risk youth which in
Itself is not an easy task. Don questioned whether Carey has received
any feedback from the Coalition regarding their response to the change
In structure, Carey commented that although no one In the Coalition
has personally con-Iac�ed him, he had been told that several memoers
were upset at not knowing the structure was going to change prior to
City Council approval. Rather than have anyone think that the changes
were made discreetly, Carey stated that he would accept the
responsibility to apologize to the Coalition for not being more
sensitive to this issue. However, he thinks there is still some
confusion rarardinc '..hat accountability the Youth Services Coordinator
has to the Coalition versus the Advisory Committee.
Manny Istiuierdo interjected that when YAP initially was approved,
there was a sensitivity not to have the Coalition play an active role
with YAP. The Advisory Committee was the place information should be
shared and not the coalition. ;that evolved as the program became less
threatening was an expectation that because of his role it would not
beneficial for the Youth Services Coordinator to share with the
Coalition. -Manny said he thought Carey has been given mixed messages
by both groups. However, he recommended that a motion be passed for
Carey to give monthly updates at Coalition meetings.
Youth Advocacy Program Advisory Committee, July 20, 1989 4
Delores stated that the Coalition should look back in Its minutes
because she was sure that the possiblity for the change In structure
had been mentioned around March. Manny agreed, but stated that he was
not sure at what meeting it had been mentioned. Nonetheless, It was
felt this Issue must continue to be addressed. Committee members
d,.zcussed the issues at length and agreed that times had changed and
the program was evolving. Don Colleton suggested that we develop a
subcommittee to discuss how the Advisory Committee can relate to the
Coalition and decide what is the best way to address gaps that will be
Identified by Ken Ehrensaft's report.
Ken Ehrensaft added that the problems of these youth and families are
larger than what people may expect. There Is a question regarding
whether there is enough technology out here to address the problems If
existing services alone are the answer. Committee members said YAP Is
not a panacea for al sigh risk youth problems, but that we should be
able to make recommendations which would address the major causes and
the solutions to solve them.
Don Colleton closed the meeting by commenting that the Advisory
Committee has much work to do in the next 3-5 months. Once again he
suggested that this work Initially be discussed and worked on in
subcommittees. Several members stated that they would not be
available In august due to vacations and also probably could not
attend the regular scheduled meeting. It was recommended that Carey
check with members to discuss their availability.
Year End n4Rort
Due to the lack of time, the Committee agreed that Year End Report
would be the first Item discussed at our next scheduled meeting.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
Carey ;lrignt, Staff
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YOUTH ADVOCACY PROGRAM
ADVISORY COMM I TTEE MEETING
SEPTE14BER 21, 1989
7:00 P.M.
Members Present: Fran Bukrey, Don Colleton, Chairman; 141cheal
DeVaul, Kathleen Hardgrove, Delores Holmes, Manny
Isquirerdo, Dan Moses, Stan Payne, Bo Price,
Epifanlo Reyther, Bob Roy, Bob Rutledge
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Jay Terry, Carey Wright, Ken Ehrensaft
(consultant), Elizabeth Edelen
Presiding Official: Don Colleton, Chairman
CALL TO ORDER
Don Colleton called the meeting to order at 7:13 p.m. Don Introduced
Jay Terry, the new Director of Health and Humar, Services, The
committee members each introduced themselves to Jay.
MINUTES
The minutes of the July 20, 1989 meeting were amended as follows:
Manny Isquirerdo and Dan Moses were present.
111th this change, the minutes were approved unanimously.
P.DF I IF
Don explained that since Carey 1•lrIght will be making a presentation,
the Committee will need to meet again to discuss the new budget and
other matters. He stated that Carey would present an aggregate
profile of the types of clients being referred to YAP.
Carey showed the Committee excerpts from the movie, "Shoot the 1-loon"
to illustrate an example of a high risk youth. Followin; the movie
excerpt, he asked the Committee, '".1hat is this youth high risk of?"
The committee agreed that the youth was high risk of family violence,
school dropout, pregnancy, drugs, runaway, police contact and nissing
adolescent development. He stated that in June, 1988 the Committee
discussed who they wanted to serve. It was determined at that ti.mo
that, the clients, high risk youth, presented a dilemma for the
program. He feels that what a youth Is high risk of dictates the type
of service that the youth need. Carey indicated that YAP should be
moving to a second phase. He said they have learned abo=.,r who is
being referred and now they should try to pro\,ide the best possible
Youth Advocacy Program Advisory Committee, September 21, 1989 2
program to address needs. Carey distributed a profile of the types of
youth served by YAP. He asked the Committee to consider whether the
type of program we have now serves the profile types.
The following discussion pertained to the profile descriptions. Stan
Payne asked what was meant by "outside placement". Carey stated that
it was placement in places like Joseph Academy. Manny Isquirerdo
asked why evening school was not mentioned. Carey stated that very
few high risk youth have been referrred from evening school. He added
that the profiles may be skewed. Stan asked how many students come
back to regular school from outside placement. ?-fanny stated that
hardly any came back and those who do return to regular school do not
usually last. Fran Sukrey added that many youth are not in places
(schools etc.) from which referrals are made. Manny stated stated
that If referrals could come from evening school, then YAJO would get
more high risk youth involved In the program. Carey Indicated that
there were differences In serving white, middle income families versus
black low Income families. He said that a black, low income family
was not likely to utilize some of the existing services. There are
some people who will not take advantage of existing, traditional
services. lie asked the Committee to consider If they really want to
work with these type of people. Don asked "Can the existing service
organizations deal sucessfully with these youth". Carey stated that
the existing services were very short on serving the most high risk
youth because a different approach may be indicated. While there Is
some success serving others, the most high risk youth are on their way
to disaster. $o Price asked Carey hoer many of those he has served are
on their way to disaster. Without giving a number, Carey answered
that many of then appear to be. Kathleen Hardgrove asked does it make
a difference if you serve them earlier in life? Carey stated that it
would make a difference if there is some early service for young
people to keep them from becoming high risk, but YAP may not be the
answer for then. 5o stated that there have been students who were
diagnosed as "not making it" but they have become sucessful. He
Indicated that the schools are too quick to "cross off a acid:'. He
stated that the problem may be with the school system. gab Rutledge
stated that court involvement seems to be the primary difference
between 91, the most high risk youth on the profile and 2, the youth
who had less risk of Incarceration. Delores Holmes state tnat the
discipline problem of the less high risk youth may be mc;re managable
than the most hi,h risk. Fran added that the most high riSK youth
cannot be managed in the schools due to discipline problems. In
answer to a question she said that 10-12 students are re.oved from
District 65 and sent for outside placement each year. 'Fanny said that
he never believed that YAP was the end to everything. He Indicated
that schools, City government, welfare programs will never give
everyone equal opportunity. However, YAP Is one more part of the
system that has to do a better job to help. He Indicates that It does
no good to argue about who is to blame.
Youth Advocacy Program Advisory Committee, September 21, 1989 3
Carey stated that people are asking him where YAP Is going. Manny
stated that he was concerned about redefining the mission for YAP when
they have not reached the first one. He thinks it Is premature to do
so. He indicated that the existing service agencies sheuld be asked
1f they are helping the at -risk family to have a better chance at
success. There may be a need to show families how to use the services
if necessary. Delores stated that service agencies have admitted that
they were not designed to meet the needs of high risk. 'canny stated
that agencies need to be wlIIing to meet these needs. Dan %loses
stated that the police department has reorganized its services to
better serve the "hard-core youth". He indicated that they are taking
steps to redefine outreach. Bo stated that budget cuts effect high
risk so the problem becomes finances. Also many give lip service but
they are not serving the high risk youth. Fran added teat what
happens over time is that people are defined out because service
cannot be afforded.
Don summarized the previous discussion by stating that we do have a
hard core who vie have not been served due to economic problems. There
is a service gap which needs skill to overcome. However, we do not
need to change the mission. The biggest task Is to gain a concensus
within agencies and agree on the nature and service needed for high
risk youth. Bob Rutledge said that after a year we should know what
works. He added that outreach is needed for the high risk family.
Mike DeVaul added that all agencies have attempted to serve the high
risk youth but there Is a drop off point for every agency for those
youth whose actions they cannot tolerate. Delores stated that for most
agencies outreach is a luxury. It works but It Is expensive. Don
Indicated that existing agencies are trying to stretch their services
but there are still some youth that cannot be reached. Dan indicated
that there was a Crime Intervention Program which trys to impact on
the younger people because so often the youth at 16 Is already lost.
Don stated that as he sees It, the Committee has the task of
motivating the existing agencies to reach the hard core youth. The
committee needs to stategize on how to do it including Increased
finances.
Consultant_StuAy
Ken Ehrensaft discussed the report he Is currently writing on the
families and the agencies. He stated that the information is still on
spreadsheets. The report will be available on October 11, 1989. He
has interviewed service agencies and attempted to gather information
from a different prospective. Some families are utilizing services
all over the City. The agencies are frustrated because although they
do serve minority high risk youth, they are not serving the high risk
families. Cost is the main factor. The agencies find that they can
help a family with only 1 problem at a time. However, the families
have multiple problems and need help in many areas. Agencies have not
been successful with overall famlly problems. The families need to be
well prepared. The agencies need more money to do outreach. Some
people cannot be saved because the technology needed does not exist.
Youth Advocacy Program Advisory Committee, September 21, 1989 4
There is a need to work with some families on a theraputic basis.
Each family has Its own set of pathologies. There is no family
cohesion with high risk families so normal methods do not always work.
The agencies need to use the trial and error method. They could make
an impact if they tried the right thing.
Carey stated that high risk families need to be worked with for a long
time In order to bring them up to normal. Ken added that the high
risk youth and their families are socially isolated. The youth are
not In a normal classroom situation. They have disabilities. There
Is an isolation of groups by class and benaviors. These youth need
mentors. The problems of some of these families can be overwhelming.
Carey Indicated that there needs to be a primary person responsible
not only for implementing and coordinating service to the high risk
youth, but is also accountable for the outcomes. Under the current
system it is difficult to ascertain where accountability for outcomes
rest. If Advocates do not provide direct services to the client and
agencies work In their present manner there remains a concern whether
successful outcomes can be achieved strictly through coordination.
Much of the literature would suggest that there needs to be a person
or program that has the ability to intervene on many levels for the
family. This is not to say other services are not needed but someone
who could provide or address some of the "hard" (housing, food) and
"soft" (counseling) needs of the family might improve the outcomes of
youth. As we know more about our clients the program should evolve.
Manny stated that there was a need for an all purpose agency to serve
all groups. He gave an example of a comprehensive service agency he
visited in New York. !•fanny added that he did not think a "super
advocate" would be practical because one person would suffer burn -out.
Carey stated that people need someone working with them over a long
period of time on a consistent basis, addressing both the family and
youth referred for service.
YAP" s INVOLVEMENT WITH COALITION A14D OTHER NETI-IORKS
Delores reminded the Comnittee that the Youth Coalition was expecting
YAP to respond to some concerns raised at the July meeting. Don
stated he would attend and the Committee dialouged about the issues.
Carey Indicated that he would not be able to attend du_ to a personal
comnittment which conflicted with the meeting. it was =ecided to
discuss this matter futher at the next meeting.
Don stated that this meeting has been one of the best. The budget,
quarterly report and other statistics will need to be reviewed at the
next meeting. The Committee decided to hold a meeting on Thursday,
October 12 at 7 p.m. This meeting would be in addition to the
regularly scheduled meeting which Is October 19.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:00 p.n.
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APPROVED AS CORRECTED
YOUTH ADVOCACY PROGRAI`1
ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
October 19, 1989
7:00 P.M.
Members Present: Fran Bukrey, Don Col leton, Chairman; Micheal
DeVaul, Kathleen Hardgrove, Manny isqulerdo, Stan
Payne, Epifanlo Reyther, Bob Roy, Bob Rutledge
Members Absent: Dan Moses, Bo Price
Staff Present: Jay Terry, Carey Wright, Elizabeth Edelen, Terri
Drews
Presiding Official: Don Colleton, Chairman
CALL_ TO OM ER
Don Colleton called the meeting to order at 7:16 p.m.
M i NUT1= S
Don stated that the October agenda should read "Minutes of September
21, 1989.
The minutes of the September 21, 1989 meeting were amended as follows:
Page 2, paragraph 2 was amended by Fran Bukrey to state 10-12
students have been removed from District 65 and sent for outside
placement In total. Each year they send 3-4 students for outside
p I acement.
Page 3, paragraph 3, was amended by Don who stated that he did
not state that there was a "hard core who have not been served
due to economic problems".
With these changes, the minutes were approved unanimously.
INTRODUCTION
Don introduced Teresa Drews who is an Intern from the Social Service
Administration (5SA) Program at University of Chicago.
EYALUATION OF f:ONSULTAHTI5 REP^PORT
Don led a discussion concerning the report submitted by Ken Ehrensaft.
Don stated that there was nothing written on the structure of YAP. He
Indicated that Chair Feldman (Human Services. Committee) had wanted the
report to evaluate the stucture. The report also does not describe
the Advisory Committee. Also missing from the report Is an evaluation
Youth Advocacy Program Advisory Committee, October 19, 1989 2
of YAP screening or staffing. There is no measurement of hard
endpoints, no analysis of the ability of YAP to service youth, no
analysis on the question of effectiveness of the Coordinator, no
discussion of coordination. The Service Gap List on page 31 is not
credible.
Jay Terry stated that he received a draft of the report on 1=riday,
October b and the final on Tuesday, October 10. Although Ken had
planned to attend the Committee meeting, Jay suggested that he not
attend. Carey Indicated that Ken will be available for questions
concerning the report.
Bob Roy stated that he did not think the report was written for
comments. Don stated that Ken was given a commission and the report
was clearly his (Ken's) thinking. Don felt it was appropriate for
the Committee members to give their reactions. Bob Rutledge indicated
that the Committee needs to discuss the report In order to pass It
along to the Human Service Committee who will need to know what effect
the report has. Don stated that he expected the Human Services
Committee to make some conclusions based on the report.
Don indicated that he felt the general conclusions made in the report
were as follows:
1. Advocates and Coordinator are doing a good Job.
2. There are some service successes.
3. There has been little change in the overall family (see pages
28, 30, and 34.
4. E+SOts are not effectively engaging.
Don stated that he was not happy with the organization of the report.
Manny Isquirerdo stated that the report lacked in identifying the
coordination of services. He indicated the report needed more
comments on the structure.
As the discussion continued Don made a list of Items missing from the
report:
1. Discussion about coordination.
2. Structure discussion.
3. It was mentioned that the Advocates needed skills In
assessments, but no examples were given.
4. Screening and staffing procedures
5. Supported measurement of hard -end points.
b. Complete service gaps list.
Bob Roy stated that Ken may have left out any discussion of structure
because he had made an earlier report which concerned the structure of
YAP. Bob Rutledge stated that he felt one of the main problems was
that the report was Incomplete. Bob Roy Indicated that In the
original proposal it was requested that the focus be child -centered.
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The focus in the report has been changed to family -centered. He also
stated that perhaps a year Is too short of a time to know If a change
has occurred.
Don stated that it has not been proven that the existing service
system does not work. There is a need to design a way to really give
the existing system a chance to work. Fran stated that the report Is
pretty hard on the existing system and she wonders if these statements
could set up a gap with the existing system (coalition).
Don stated that he is not sure if Ken means what he says In the
statement at the bottom of page 33 of the report because the data base
Is not broad enough to support the statement.
Bob Rutledge referred to the table on pages 29-30 of the report. He
said that It cannot be concluded that agencies are not successful
because the table shows that they are successful. Bob said he finds
that many conclusions In the report are unsupported by the data.
Bob Roy indicated that the report does not show that part of the
problem is that no agency exists to overcome all the problems of high
risk families. The individual agencies may solve one problem, but It
Is not within their mission to deal with more problems. Therefore,
families are treated for one problem at a time as it comes up.
Manny indicated that he questions the methodology used for the report.
He stated that only talking to Youth Advocates or a few agencies does
not give the whole picture of service In Evanston. Manny stated that
the report can be useful to help the Committee pose some questions.
The following questions were determined:
1. Why a YAP Advisory Committee? What is its unique role?
2. How can YAP work with the Coalition to make it's uniqueness
work?
3. What factors beyond resistance to service make effective
overall service difficult?
a. Which agencies are not in the business of treating high risk
families?
5. How is productivity Interpreted In the report?
b. How does the report document existence and characteristics of
high risk families?
7. How does the report document that high risk youth and
families are very difficult to treat?
8. How does the report measure YAP's coordinating efforts?
Delores Holmes stated that the focus should be on the families because
the service agencies need to help the families so that the high risk
youth can go back to healthy family environment. Don stated that the
high risk youth served by YAP are part of high risk families with
multiple problems. He said we cannot assume that this Idea would be
self-evident to the Human Services Committee. Carey stated that the
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past concept of family needs to be extended. Some families can be
worked with more than others. Some youth make it depending on the
services they receive. For high risk families, different services
help with different needs. Delores added that the families really
depend on the agencies to supply services.
Manny indicated that YAP needs to document their referrals to other
agencies in other to take a bigger look at the problems. Carey stated
that there was a limit to what agencies can do. Bob Roy Indicated
that there was a need to bring parts of the community together.
Coordination Is a link. Bob Rutledge stated that he found one problem
with the report was that rather than taking the data as evidence of
coordination, Ken seemed take a left turn Into service delivery.
Don asked how should the report be transmitted to the Human Services
Commission? Manny stated that they needed to speak to Ken's
conclusions.
Don summarized the discussion with the following:
1. Reason for the report - requested by Human Services
Committee.
2. The report documents the existence and complexity of high
risk, multiple problem families.
3. The report concludes that treatment of high risk youth
necessarily Involves treatment of high risk families.
4. Treatment Is very difficult and costly and It requires
non-traditional methods.
5. YAP Is doing a good Job.
6. Insufficient analysis of nature and effectiveness of
coordinating role.
7. The Committee does not endorse the report's analysis of
existing service agencies (ESA's) as inadequate. The report
does not scientifically or well document this Idea.
Jay stated that Table 16 does not show a high rate of resistance or
refusal. Manny indicated that resistance to service is not the whole
problem.
Bob Rutledge stated that it should be a goal for the Committee to
Interpret the report to Human Services. The material In the report
should be viewed as important because it represents new knowledge In
terms of a community problem. The report answers questions about data
and proves that the high risk families really exist. Manny stated
that we need to use the report to Identify issues.
Manny Indicated that In terms of Intake and assessment of clients,
there was a need for a more indepth identlflcation of problems.
Service agencies cannot probe too deep because they get resistance,
however, Advocates are In a position to probe more effectively. Manny
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also stated that because high risk families are difficult to serve.
Therefore YAP needs to serve them differently, I.e. with
non-traditional approaches.
Manny stated that he has good reason to believe that the agencies will
not agree with the report. He added that the agencies were still
sensitive regarding the stucture change. Delores Indicated that no
one knew how the report would come out. Bob Rutledge Indicated that
the Committee should split with the bias statements In the report and
align with the one they can agree with.
Jay Indicated that the Human Service Committee will be looking at the
amount of funds expended for the report ($6000) and trying to
determine if it was worth It.
Don stated that next year the Advisory Committee should focus on the
coordinating role of staff for evaluation purposes, in order to gain
more insight on effectiveness.
Carey stated that he will make recommendations of how YAP can better
coordinate and Improve at the next meeting.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:20.
Carey Wright, Staff