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APPROVED
ENERGY COMMISSION
MEETING OF OCTOBER 27, 1993
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AGENDA
MEMBERS PRESENT: Barry Crain, David Grumman, Janet Hoffman, Joseph
Jaskulski, David Kraft, Gary Michaels, Peter
Nichols, James Piepmeier, Mark Rolfes, Roy
Warmington
MEMBERS ABSENT: Elliot Nesvig
STAFF PRESENT: Judith Aiello, Eric Anderson, Dennis Marino
SUMMARY Or ACTION
The meeting was convened at 7:33 A.M. by Eric Anderson, City
Manager, who welcomed the members of the Commission to the first
meeting. Mr. Anderson began by suggesting that members and staff
provide self introductions.
Mr. Anderson next summarized the communications which had been
included in the packet and highlighted Ordinance 49-0-93 which
created the Commission. Mr Anderson also summarized Resolution 99-
R-93 which states that the Commission is to provide the City
Council with an appropriate work plan no later than January 25,
1994. The Resolution also directs the Commission to provide a
progress report to the City Council every four months and to issue
a final recommendation no later than May, 1995.
Resolution 99-R-93 also states that after a report is issued by the
Commission to City Council, there will be seven months of community
education, discussion and debate with consideration given to a
referendum on this issue. The goal for a final decision by the City
Council is December, 1995.
Mr. Anderson stated that the discussion of the role and
responsibilities of the Commission and the focus of the Commission
will be an ongoing discussion during the initial meetings of the
Commission as it develops a work plan. He encouraged members to
comment on this topic today and at future meetings. Mr. Anderson
added that $80,000 was currently available in the City's 1993-94
budget (March 1 - February 28) to fund the efforts of the Task
Force and that an additional $300,000 had been programmed in the
City's capital improvement program for possible future
expenditures.
During 1993, Mr. Anderson commented, the City Council adopted an
Ordinance creating the Environment Board which is the successor
body to the Environmental Control Board. This Ordinance as well as
the Ordinance creating the Energy Commission, called for a joint
effort between the Energy Commission and the Environment Board to
develop a City Energy Policy. David Kraft stated that he had
attended a meeting of a subcommittee which had been formed by the
Environment. Board to begin to address this issue with the
Commission.
James Piepmeier suggested that members discuss the definition of
basic terms at the next meeting, especially the definition of
energy conservation. David Grumman commented that the term
municipalization is perhaps too restrictive and asked if there was
flexibility to explore other approaches in addition to the Com Ed
franchise and municipalization. Mr. Anderson responded that this
was an issue for the Commission to decide and that all options
should be considered. Mr. Grumman also commented that the
Commission needed to discuss the distinction between energy policy
and electric policy. Mr. Grumman added that he would provide a copy
of the City of Austin's Energy Policy to be distributed to members
and he suggested that City staff identify relevant energy policies
developed by other cities. David Kraft requested that the Portland
Energy Policy submitted to the Task Force be distributed to
Commission members.
Mr. Anderson next summarized the City's relationship with
Commonwealth Edison, stating that a franchise extension had been
approved and that the term of the extension was for a period of
seven years retroactive to the expiration of the 1957 franchise in
March, 1992.
Mr. Anderson commented that members of the Commission had the
authority to elect the Chair of the Commission and that this could
occur today or at the next meeting. The consensus of members
present was to defer this action until the next meeting.
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Mr. Anderson also encouraged members to develop criteria for staff
support as soon as possible. He added that the three staff members
present who had been involved in the Energy Alternatives Task Force
believed that the Commission needed more substantial technical and
engineering expertise than available from current staff. Janet
Goelz Hoffman suggested that the Commission needed more time to
decide the substance and methods of its work before proceeding to
establish criteria for hiring consultants.
James Piepmeier proposed that the next meeting occur on Wednesday,
November 3, 1993 at 7:00 A.M. Several members suggested agenda
topics including: a discussion of fundamental terms, including
energy conservation and municipalization; an opportunity for
members of the Energy Alternatives Task Force to address the
Commission; a review of key documents produced by the Energy
Alternatives Task Force; a discussion of subcommittee topics and;
criteria for staff and consultant support.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:05 A.M.
Dennis Marino
Economic Development Planner
MEMBERS PRESENT:
M&MBERS ABSENT:
STAFF PRESENT:
SUMMARY OF ACTION
APPROVED
ENERGY COMMISSION
MEETING OF NOVEMBER 3, 1993
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Barry Cain, David Grumman, Janet Hoffman,
Joseph Jaskulski, David Kraft, Gary Michaels,
Bud Nesvig, James Piepmeier, Marc Rolfes, Roy
Warmington
Peter Nichols
Judith Aiello, Dennis Marino
The Meeting was convened at 7:08 A.M. by Dennis Marino, City staff,
who requested a motion to approve the minutes of the Meeting of
November 3, 1993. James Piepmeier moved for approval; Mark Rolfes
provided a second. Two corrections were made by Mr. Grumman and Mr.
Piepmeier and the revised minutes were approved 9-0 with one
abstention (Mr. Nesvig).
Dennis Marino summarized the communications which had been included
in the packet for the meeting, including numerous documents
produced by the Energy Alternatives Task Force as well as a
chronology of activities undertaken by the Task Force.
David Kraft provided members with a written critique of the
Northwest Municipal Model Franchise which had been developed by the
Task Force and submitted to City Council.
DISCUSSION WITH ENERGY ALTERNATIVES TASK FORCE
Dennis Marino introduced Charles Lippitz and Norm Raedle of the
Energy Alternatives Task Force, who along with other members of the
Task Force, were invited by the Energy Commission to meet and
discuss their past work on electric options available to the City.
Mr. Raedle invited David Kraft, who served on the Energy
Alternatives Task Force and who now serves on the Commission, to
join the discussion.
Mr. Raedle stated that the Task Forces mission was to examine the
upcoming expiration of the 1957 franchise agreement with Com Ed and
to consider the possible creation of a new franchise with Cam Ed
and other options available to the City for electric service.
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Norm Raedle summarized his background in business and he stated
that he viewed himself and Chuck Lippitz as representative of five
of the members of the Task Force. He encouraged the Commission to
speak separately with the other three members: the Co -Chairs, James
Suhr and Rosanne Dineen and; State Representative Jan Schakowsky.
Referring to the Task Force's critique of the Northwest Model
Franchise Agreement, Mr. Raedle stated that the Task Force found it
to be seriously flawed. He added that the Task Force did not view
this as a model; it was inflexible and biased in one direction. Mr.
Raedle stated that the Northwest Model Franchise was submitted by
Cam Ed to the City's Negotiating Team and there was little, if any,
effort to negotiate beyond this agreement.
Mr. Raedle stated that he did not believe that electric service was
a significant issue for most residents. In terms of informed
residents, there was a realization that there were significant
electric service issues to consider.
Mr. Raedle stated that the Task Force invested four years in
analyzing and learning about issues related to electric service. He
added that this was necessary and that the Commission can hopefully
build on the Task Force's experience.
Chuck Lippitz stated that the Task Force was a very diverse group,
but there was unanimous support for pursuing municipalization
studies in order to develop a possible alternative to Com Ed and to
negotiate effectively with Com Ed. He added that the Task Force did
not reach any conclusion on this subject and that he was hopeful
that the Commission could conclude this work.
David Kraft thanked Dennis Marino for organizing the chronology of
Task Force activities since 1989. He highlighted three major
activities of the Task Force: the pursuit of the municipalization
study, the analysis of the Northwest Municipal Model Franchise and
the debate over the proposed franchise agreement. He added that the
development of an energy policy was an issue which was addressed
late in the life of the Task Force.
Mr. Kraft stated that the piecemeal and linear approach to the
study of municipalization was a mistake. He added that it would
have been more effective to have engaged in all aspects of a
municipalization study simultaneously. He also stated that the
absence of absolute deadlines also hampered the Task Force's
efforts.
Mr. Kraft recommended that the Commission include a pubic relations
and public education campaign to make certain the citizenry is
aware of the issues under consideration. He added that the Task
Force was not able to do this.
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Jim Piepmeier asked what studies were completed by the Task Force.
Dennis Marino responded that the Preliminary Feasibility Study by
Duncan and Allen was completed in 1991. He added that the City had
executed a contract with R.W. Heck to conduct a Power Supply Study,
but that this was suspended after the City and Com Ed Negotiating
Teams reached a proposed agreement to take to their respective
governing bodies. Mr. Marino concluded by commenting that
additional studies, including an inventory and evaluation of the
distribution system and an additional financial analysis had been
recommended by Duncan and Allen, but that these had not been
initiated.
Mr. Nesvig asked if there was an obligation on the part of the City
to reopen the contract with R.W. Heck. Dennis Marino and Judith
Aiello responded that there was not.
Marc Rolfes summarized the issues identified by the Task Force as
barriers to success:
1. Public Education and Relations
2. Focusing on Completing Studies
3. Degree to which Electric Service is an Issue Among Citizens
4. Defining a Comprehensive Plan
Mr. Rolfes asked if there were other barriers. Norm Raedle
responded that the Commission is operating in a political arena and
is dependent on the City Council for funding. He added that it was
important to keep the Council informed. Mr. Lippitz added :hat Cam
Ed is not a neutral party and is not a helpful party. David Kraft
stated that the Task Force was bogged down by the Franchise
extension debate. He added that this will not -occur with the
Commission. Mr. Kraft stated that involving the Evanston citizenry
in the electric issue through effective public relations and
education is a challenge for the Commission which the Task Force
was not able to address.
In response to a question from David Grumman asking why the Task
Force had recommended that it be dissolved, Mr. Raedle stated that
after five years of work, many members of the Task Force were worn
out and that it was time for a new group to address issues in a
different, but related way.
Mr. Grumman asked if more technical experience had been needed by
the Task Force and staff. Norm Raedle responded that this would
have been necessary if the Task Force had proceeded into more
technical studies beyond the Duncan and Allen Study. Chuck Lippitz
added that a more technical group is necessary at this stage to
pursue detailed studies addressing municipalization and
cogeneration.
Mr. Raedle highlighted the need to investigate rapidly changing
technology, including cogeneration which was implemented in an
impressive way by Evanston Township High School.
Eunice Collins stated that she would like to more clearly define
the essence of a franchise. She added that a franchise between Cam
Ed and a municipality is a contract that controls and regulates Cam
Ed's use of the streets. It does not give any additional rights or
privileges to Cam Ed. A franchise is of very limited scope, but
this was never recognized by the Task Force.
Ms. Collins added that it was appropriate for Cam Ed to have one
standard franchise with all municipalities except Chicago. She
aided that Chicago was a different case because it came into the
Cam Ed system after being served by an electric company which had
a different franchise approach.
Ms. Collins urged Commission members to speak with the Northwest
Municipal Conference about the reasons it viewed the Northwest
Municipal Conference Model Franchise as desirable. Chuck Lippit2
responded that the Task Force did not concur with this view nor did
most members of the City Council in early 1993.
Gary Michaels asked if Evanston was the only municipality that am
opposed the Northwest Agreement. Eunice Collins responded that
Evanston abstained from the vote at the Northwest Municipal
Conference when the approval of the Model was considered. David
Kraft added that oak Park and Sterling as well as other
municipalities with special interests and needs had not signed on
to the Model Franchise.
Gary Michaels asked David Kraft to describe the other issues the
Task Force wanted to include in the franchise. Mr. Kraft responded
that issues of reliability and energy conservation were two key
issues that the Task Force wanted to see addressed in the
franchise. Norm Raedle added that the addition of performance
standards for Com Ed to the franchise would have been a good idea.
Such standards, he stated, could be tied to penalties and/or
reopener clauses to insure reliable service. Mr. Raedle concluded
by stating that disclosure of information by Cam Ed about the
nature and condition of the distribution system was a key issue
that should have been addressed in a franchise.
David Grumman asked if the Task Force discussed what alternatives sn#tea;
existed to improve reliability. David Kraft responded that Cam Ed
made general presentations about planned improvements to the -=
system, but these were insufficiently detailed. Norm Raedle added
that technical expertise to address this issue was needed.
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Joseph Jakulski asked what the quality of information was that
existed about reliability and the condition of the system,
including any time series data that would enable one to assess
reliability of service trends. Norm Raedle responded that little
information was available from the City and that Com Ed had some
information, but it was unclear at what level an outage was counted
under the Com Ed system of data collection.
David Grumman asked if a referendum was required for
municipalization. Juditil Aiello stated that Duncan and Allen
advised that the City engage in a referendum before municipalizing.
In addition, she stated that C--y Cc%unci= would probably not
proceed on this issue without a referendum to test citizen
sentiments. Bud Nesvig asked if a referendum was required if the
City municipalized without using bond fina.cing. Dennis Marina
agreed to investigate this issue.
Dennis Marino and several members thanked David Kraft, Chuck
Lippitz and Norm Raedle for the perspect'_ve shared with the
Commission. Chuck Lippitz thanked the Commission for the
opportunity to bring closure to Sze Task Force's work and help
provide a transition so that the wcrk of the past five years will
not be lost.
ELECTION OF CHAIR PERSON AND VICE CHAIR
Dennis Marino opened the floor for nominations for Chair after
providing an overview of the duties of a Chair. Mr. Marino also
described how the Chair and Vice - Chair functioned within the
Energy Alternatives Task Force.
Bud Nesvig offered to serve as Chair of the Commission to avoid the
lack of focus that he stated had exemplified the work of the Task
Force. He added that there was a need to make assignments and to be
disciplined about completing work. Janet Hoffman concurred and
added that she wanted to make certain her time is invested in a way
that generates specific and useful results. David Grumman added
that the appointment of Subcommittee chairs will be critical.
Janet Hoffman nominated Bud Nesvig for Chair and David Grumman for
Vice Chair. Marc Rolfes provided a second. All members voted in
favor of the motion.
CRITERIA FOR STAFF AND CONSULTANT SUPPORT
After a brief discussion, members concluded that they would not be _
able to address this issue until they had clarity about the workF
plan. The issue was tabled until the next meetin b consensus. Bud 9 Y �s }�
Nesvig asked David Grumman to prepare an outline of a staff job
description for the next meeting. =-zt
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Bud Nesvig asked if additional staff would be funded from the
$100,000 set aside by the City for municipalization studies. Judith
Aiello stated that compensation for consultants and new staff would
be financed from the $100,000 appropriated.
TOPICS FOR SUBCOMMITTEES
After a brief discussion, members agreed to table the discussion of
organization of subcommittees until the next meeting to be
preceded by a discussion and debate about fundamental key terms and
issues upon which the Commission will focus.
Jim Piepmeier suggested that Commission members needed to engage
each other in a fundamental discussion about key issues and
fundamental definitions. He stated that dividing into subcommittees
now would preclude such a critical step and compartmentalize issues
prematurely. He advised against forming subcommittees before the
first meeting in December.
Joseph Jaskulski stated that the Commission should focus first on
prioritizing the eight tasks included in the Ordinance creating the
Energy Commission. He advised that each subcormittee, when formed,
should have clearly stated object',ves and not be organized by
functional categories alone.
David Grumann suggested that members should identify the key issues
and problems and not spend time on issues that will not be
significant. He suggested that members bring such a list of issues
to the next meeting.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:08 A.S.
Dennis Marino
Economic Development Planner
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APPROVED
ENERGY COMMISSION
MINUTES OF MEETING OF NOVEMBER 11, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: CAIN, GOELZ HOFFMAN, GRUMMAN, KRAFT,
MICHAELS, NESVIG, NICHOLS, PIEPMEIER,
WARMINGTON
MEMBERS ABSENT: JASKULSKI, ROLFES
STAFF PRESENT: AIELLO, MARINO
PRESIDING OFFICIAL: BUD NESVIG, CHAIR
SUMMARY OF ACTION
The Meeting was called to order at 7:19 A.M. by Chairman Bud
Nesvig. The minutes of the Meeting of November 3, 1993 were
deferred for consideration until the next meeting of the
Commission.
COMMUNICATIONS
Dennis Marino summarized the schedule of meetings which had been
included in members' packets. Bud Nesvig stated that Marc Rolfes
was willing to serve as Secretary to the Commission.
Janet Hoffman requested information about the procedure for the
Commission to secure approval for the expenditure of funds. She
also asked if the Commission had a special liaison with one or more
members of the City Council. Dennis Marino responded that the
Administration and Public Works Committee of the City Council,
which includes all nine Aldermen, is the entity to whom the Energy
Commission reports and makes recommendations, including expenditure
of funds. The Administration and Public Works Committee will then
make recommendations to the City Council.
Bud Nesvig stated that he had requested that Janet Hoffman
investigate three issues: (1) the wheeling of power by a third
party via Com Ed's transmission system; (2) the procedure for
requesting quotations from third party electric suppliers who
purchase the distribution system and (3) whether a referendum is
required to municipalize the electric system.
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Several members distributed memoranda they had prepared in response
to the Chairman's request at the conclusion of the November 3, 1993
Meeting to list priorities for the Commission to address.
DISCUSSION OF WORK PLAN PRIORITIES
Bud Nesvig distributed a copy of the eight tasks which had been
stated as duties of the Energy Commission in the Ordinance which
created the Commission. Mr. Nesvig stated that he intended to
develop assignments today for members to begin examining issues.
Mr. Nesvig began the discussion by asking if any members believed
that cogeneration, which was one of the eight duties listed, should
be examined by the Commission. Jim Piepmeier responded that it was
too early to answer this question. He added that the Commission
needs to address the enormous information gaps that exist on all
the issues and identify the most important tasks to be included in
the work plan before January 15, 1994.
David Grumman stated that he did not envision cogeneration as a
critical issue for public buildings in Evanston unless parties were
identified who would use the City's heat generated through a
cogeneration process. Jim Piepmeier responded that ETHS has
demonstrated how this can be done and other cities have considered
local area energy networks.
Gary Michaels suggested that feasibility analysis of cogeneration
potential could be part of the overall analysis of the feasibility
of municipalization. David Kraft concurred and added that
cogeneration at the City's water plant was the focus of the City's
interest in cogeneration. Dennis Marino added that the current City
budget included an expenditure of approximately $860,000 in
electric service payment for the water pumping function of the
City's water utility. Janet Hoffman acknowledged that this was a
considerable expenditure worthy of additional investigation. Roy
Warmington added that the use of gas powered engines may be one
method of reducing expense in this area.
Judith Aiello stated that the City had been working with Stanley
Consultants to address issues raised by the Energy Alternatives
Task Force. In response to an Aldermanic request, concerning the
feasibility of cogeneration at the water plant, the City has
retained Stanley to address this issue on a very preliminary basis.
She added that the preliminary report would be submitted to the
Commission when it is received from the consultant.
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David Kraft suggested that the following issues could be addressed
with help from entities outside the Energy Commission:
(1) Legislative and regulatory monitoring: City's legislative
liaison in Springfield.
(2) Public education and public relations: Contract with outside
professional.
(3) Assessment of energy savings potential of the City: City's
Engineering Department.
(4) Monitoring technology: outside consultants.
(5) Monitoring of Com Ed performance in Evanston: unclear due to
lack of data.
(6) Monitoring of franchise issues in other municipalities:
Northwest Municipal Conference.
David Grumman cautioned members that the willingness of an entity
to engage in energy savings investments is often driven by a two or
three year payback requirement which is difficult to achieve. David
Kraft stated that he hoped that programs could be delivered to the
community which could address this concern, especially involving
industrial and commercial users.
Jim Piepmeier commented that there are structural impediments to
energy savings because of the overemphasis in the industry on
generation issues and limited attention given to downstream issues
at the meter. He added that there is a need for more capital
intensive measures at the meter such as new boilers and chillers.
He suggested that the Commission not preclude the issue of energy
savings because of 2-3 year payback emphasis. Mr. Piepmeier
concluded that this could be addressed in different ways including
the use of an intermediate end use energy utility that could be
part of a future franchise.
Gary Michaels asked what was intended by the phrase "completion" of
municipalization studies. Dennis Marino summarized the issues
addressed by the Duncan and Allen Preliminary Feasibility Study and
presented the current status of the R.W. Beck study which had been
suspended at the time an agreement concerning the franchise
extension had occurred between the two negotiating teams.
David Grumman stated that the issues of disagreement with Com Ed
should be the focus of one or more subcommittees.
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Barry Cain questioned what City Council's position was concerning
Cam Ed. He stated that there was a need to determine what would be
required for City Council to be convinced that an extended
relationship with Cam Ed might not be a good idea. Gary Michaels
questioned whether it had been determined that Evanston could
secure a better arrangement elsewhere. David Grumman stated that
Council wants definitive answers concerning the City's options and
no one has definitive answers. He added that the Commission should
not issue recommendations which involve areas of uncertainty.
Jim Piepmeier stated that the discussion was focusing on outcomes
too prematurely. He added that there was a need to place parameters
around inadequately defined discussions concerning reliability and
cost. Such parameters might address reliability relative to other
communities, the need to generate data on the electric system in
Evanston, and the range of alternatives to be examined beyond the
narrow choices of either Cam Ed or municipalization. He concluded
by stating that the Commission should identify the range of
solutions to these issues and be cautious about polarizing the
discussion.
After additional discussion, the Commission agreed to establish
the following subcommittees with the membership as indicated below
to investigate the priority tasks to be included in the
Commission's work plan. Mr. Nesvig requested that members of each
subcommittee present an outline to be discussed during the Meeting
of November 19, 1993.
1. Inventory and Evaluation of Electric and Gas Transmission and
Distribution Systems: Jim Piepmeier, Roy Warmington, Peter
Nichols
2. Energy Savings and Liaison with Large Electric Users: David
Grumman and Barry Cain
3. Evaluation of Past Studies and Consultants: Gary Michaels
4. Legal Issues: Janet Hoffman
5. Environment Board Subcommittee: David Kraft
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David Kraft announced that there will be a meeting of the
Environment Board and the members of the Energy Commission who are
interested in working on a City Energy Policy. The meeting will
occur on Thursday, November 18th at 6:30 P.M. Bud Nesvig agreed to
attend with Mr. Kraft.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:56 A.M.
D e n n s Marino
Economic Development Planner
APPROVED
ENERGY COMMISSION
MINUTES OF MEETING OF NOVEMBER 19, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: GOELZ HOFFMAN, GRUMMAN, JASKULSKI, KRAFT,
MICHAELS, NESVIG, PIEPMEIER, ROLFES,
WAR.MINGTON
MEMBERS ABSENT: CAIN, NICHOLS
PRESIDING OFFICIAL: BUD NESVIG, CHAIR
STAFF PRESENT: AIELLO, MARINO
SUMMARY OF ACTION
The Meeting was called to order by Bud Nesvig at 7:19 A.M. David
Grumman moved for approval of the minutes of November 3, 1993. Marc
Rolfes provided a second. The minutes of November 3rd were approved
unanimously without additions or corrections. Roy Warmington moved
for approval of the minutes of the Meeting of November 11, 1993.
David Grumman provided a second. After accepting two corrections
proposed by Roy Warmington, the minutes of November llth were
approved unanimously.
Bud Nesvig asked members who were not present at the November 11th
Meeting, when subcommittee assignments were made, to volunteer for
subcommittee service. Mr. Nesvig noted that Barry Cain had
volunteered for the Subcommittee working on energy savings and
large electric users. Marc Rolfes volunteered to serve on the Legal
and Regulatory Subcommittee and Joseph Jaskulski offered to serve
on the Subcommittee investigating procedures for conducting an
inventory and evaluation of the electric and gas transmission and
distribution systems. Mr. Jaskulski stated that he hoped that the
Subcommittee would not restrict its analysis to the feasibility of
acquiring the existing electric distribution system.
Jim Piepmeier reported that he had initially believed that the
Commission could conduct most of the work needed to evaluate the
electric distribution system, but after examining available data he
now believed a consultant was necessary.
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Mr. Piepmeier moved to enter Executive Session to discuss
negotiations. David Kraft provided a second. At 7:35 A.M., the
Commission entered Executive Session after a unanimous roll call
vote.
The Commission reconvened into Open Session at 8:08 A.M. Janet
Goelz Hoffman reported that she had not yet completed her
preliminary research to identify key legal issues as requested by
Bud Nesvig. However, she did have preliminary comments concerning
Mr. Nesvig memorandum of November 5, 1993 which raised the
following two questions: (1) the wheeling of electric power
supplied by third parties and; (2) the possibility of electric
power suppliers purchasing the distribution system from Com Ed,
supplying power to Evanston, and eventually transferring ownership
of the distribution system to Evanston.
Ms. Hoffman stated that wheeling of power through the Com Ed system
as suggested by Mr. Nesvig was possible. She added that the rights
to do this are more generous at the end of a franchise agreement
instead of in the middle of the term of a franchise agreement when
a municipality could be viewed as abrogating a franchise agreement.
Ms. Hoffman stated that this was based on the relatively new
Federal Energy Act.
Mr. Jaskulski reported that a franchise had been reported by Com
Ed's representative to be restricted to the use of the City's
streets and alleys. Mr. Nesvig stated that he had asked Eunice
Collins to put in writing her statement about the rights involved
in a franchise being restricted to the use of pubic streets. He
added that he had not received this from Ms. Collins. He suggested
that Ms. Goelz Hoffman give Ms. Collins a call to determine if this
is possible. Mr. Jaskulski stated that it appears a franchise
agreement affects the ability to wheel power from a third party
through the Com Ed transmission system to Evanston. Ms. Hoffman
stated that this was a consequence of the new Federal Energy Act
and not the Com Ed franchise agreement.
Jim Piepmeier stated that the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission
(FERC) ruled on October 27, 1993 that the Florida Power and Light
Company must provide wheeling access to the Florida Municipal
Electric Association. He asked if this ruling might have an impact
on wheeling rights throughout the nation. Ms. Goelz Hoffman
responded that it could have an impact, adding that the Energy Act
is so recent that new interpretations of the legislation surface
frequently. She concluded by stating that she intended to do
additional research in this area.
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David Grumman asked what Com Ed could charge for wheeling. Me.
Goelz Hoffman responded that this would be regulated by existing
FERC tariffs concerning wheeling.
David Kraft reported that Com Ed once responded to a question
raised by the Task Force concerning wheeling by suggesting that it
might not have the transmission capacity to wheel from the North.
Mr. Kraft added that power could also be wheeled from Northwest
Indiana via the Chicago transmission system.
Joseph Jaskulski explained that wheeling involved Cam Ed receiving
power from another power supplier at the entry port into their
system equal to the power delivered to the Evanston system. He
added that this was a commodity or bookkeeping transaction between
Com Ed and the third party supplier. Technically, there is really
not a need for an interconnection between the third party supplier
and Evanston because the power supplied by the third party to the
Com Ed system never really reaches Evanston.
Concerning the second issue Mr. Nesvig asked hex to address, Ms.
Goelz Hoffman stated that Com Ed can be forced to sell the
distribution system to the City of Evanston through eminent domain,
but it cannot be forced to sell to or negotiate with a third party
which desires to purchase the system. She added that Illinois law
does not state clearly how a distribution system would be valued.
The third issue addressed by Me. Goelz Hoffman concerned the issue
of whether a referendum was required before the City of Evanston
municipalized the electric system. She stated that, based on
preliminary research, that a referendum did not appear to be a
legal requirement under Illinois law given the strength of local
home rule powers. She concluded by stating that she would conduct
additional investigation of this issue.
David Grumman stated that even if a referendum is not a legal
requirement, City Council may insist upon a referendum before
deciding whether to municipalize the electric system.
Roy Warmington stated that he had contacted Northern Illinois Gas
Company concerning the Commission's ability to secure information
concerning the gas distribution system in Evanston. Mr. Warmington
reported that NIGAS was willing to make appropriate maps available
if they are requested. In addition, more detailed drawings would be
available in the offices of NIGAS.
Bud Nesvig asked Mr. Warmington to inquire with his NI GAS contact
about the company's interest in possibilities for conversion from
electric power to gas power for facilities like the City's water
pumping facility. Mr. Nesvig added that he believed that NI GAS
should consider covering the cost of the new equipment involved in
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such conversions. He asked Mr. Warmington to inquire about the
possibility of such incentives from the gas company. David Grumman
stated that his recent experience had been that NIGAS would not
cover equipment costs in this type of transaction.
David Kraft asked Mr. Warmington to ascertain as to whether any
regulatory requirements exist which impose disclosure obligation
upon NIGAS which may also apply to Com Ed.
Mr. Nesvig asked Dennis Marino to determine how the City buys gas.
Members next discussed the ability to secure information from Com
Ed concerning the electrical distribution system in Evanston. David
Kraft stated that the Task Force had a difficulty securing any
useful information from Com Ed. Joseph Jaskulski agreed to draft a
letter to Com Ed for the Commission's review concerning a request
for information. Dennis Marino agreed to supply Mr. Jaskulski with
background information concerning the Task Force's efforts to
secure information from Cam Ed.
David Grumman reported that the Subcommittee on Energy Savings and
Large Electric Users intended to contact Northwestern University
and Evanston Hospital during the next four weeks. Bud Nesvig
requested that Dennis Marino determine if the City has any data on
the largest electric users in Evanston. He also asked that the City
make a request of Com Ed to determine which electric users are the
largest payers of municipal electric tax.
Gary Michaels reported that he had initiated a'review of the
existing studies commissioned by the City, but that he required
more time before reporting to the Commission.
David Kraft reported that he, Bud Nesvig and David Grumman met
jointly with a delegation from the Environment Board to discuss
plans for development of a City Energy Policy. David Grumman stated
that there was a need for the group to focus upon what it wanted to
accomplish by the creation of an Energy Policy and then to proceed
with its work on a focused basis. David Kraft encouraged members to
view a videotape and read the minutes of a presentation of Scott
Bernstein of the Center for Neighborhood Technology before the
Energy Alternatives Task Force concerning the need to develop an
Energy Policy. Mr. Kraft requested that the minutes of this
presentation be made available to members.
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Bud Nesvig commented that Marc Rolfes had offered to be the
Secretary of the Commission. He asked Mr. Rolfes if he would be
willing to begin to draft an outline of the Commission's report to
the City Council which is scheduled to be discussed on January 24th
by the Administration and Public Works Committee of the City
Council. Mr. Rolfes responded that he would be willing to undertake
this assignment and he recommended that the Commission discuss a
statement of purpose and fundamental definitions as soon as
possible.
David Kraft distributed articles concerning cogeneration activities
by the Kohler Company and offered members a flyer describing an
= upcoming conference to be sponsored by the Center for Neighborhood
Technology on December 3rd.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:54 A.M.
Dennis Marino
Economic Development Planner
APPROVED
ENERGY COMMISSION
MINUTES OF MEETING OF NOVEMBER 29, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: CAIN, GOELZ HOFFMAN, JASKULSKI, KRAFT,
MICHAELS, NESVIG, PIEPMEIER, ROLFES, WARMINGTON
MEMBERS ABSENT: GRUMMAN, NICHOLS
PRESIDING OFFICIAL: BUD NESVIG, CHAIR
STAFF PRESENT: MARINO
SUMMARY OF ACTION
Bud Nesvig called the Meeting to order at 7:18 A.M. Marc Rolfes
moved for approval of the Minutes of the Meeting of November 19,
1993. David Kraft provided a second to the motion. Mr. Kraft asked
that the Minutes be amended to include his request t� Roy
Warmington that NIGAS be asked if it has peen required by ,Mate
statute or regulation to disclose information about its
distribution system, and whether such requirement would also apply
to Com Ed. Members present voted unanimously to approve the minutes
with the addition of Mr„ Kraft's request.
Mr. Nesvig called attention to Mr. Jaskulski's comments concerning
Com Ed's wheeling capacity as stated in the Minutes of November
19th. He commented that this appeared to contradict what had been
previously stated by Com Ed. Mr. Jaskulski added that there may be
technical complications in wheeling power into Evanston, but they
should not be insurmountable.
Mr. Nesvig reported that he had reviewed the 1992-1993 City of
Evanston Budget and found that the total budget was $47 million and
that the property tax collected is $23.5 million. He added that the
Commission should be aware of these facts because Com Ed pays
Chicago $80 million in franchise fees while Evanston receives
$400,000 in free electricity. If Evanston received a pro rata share
of franchise fees comparable to Chicago, it would receive $2
million annually. Mr. Nesvig added that $2 million would equal 8-9%
of the annual property taxes the City of Evanston receives. He
added that $400,000 in free electricity should be valued at only
$150,000 cash.
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Joe Jaskulski stated that half of the eight tasks listed in the
Ordinance address Cam Ed and half address other issues. He
cautioned members to focus on immediate issues involving the Cam Ed
relationship which has a focal point and a deadline for
consideration.
David Kraft stated that the essence of the issue for the Commission
is to determine if the City should stay with Cam Ed and if not Cam
Ed, then what entity or entities should or could supply
electricity. Marc Rolfes suggested that maybe the focus should be
what the City wants and needs and whether Com Ed will conform to*
this need.. Mr. Kraft stated that Cam Ed has already stated that its
position is the Northwest Municipal Franchise Agreement.
Jim Piepmeier indicated that the Commission should not focus on
fighting the last war or debating an outdated issue: Cam Ed or not
Cam Ed. He added that Cam Ed will probably be a very different
company in five years and it will be a totally different company in
50 years if it even exists at that time. Mr. Piepmeier stated that
there will not be a single supplier of electricity to Evanston in
five years, it will be a combination of suppliers with groups of
customers banding together working with various suppliers. He
encouraged members not to become bogged down in planning based on
today's supply structure. He commented that if the Commission tries
to focus on what ought to be done, we will be outfoxed by market
forces. According to Mr. Piepmeier, the Commission should focus on
what it wants to happen and to encourage innovation in the delivery
of electrical power by a newly emerging system. He concluded by
stating that if the Commission makes a recommendation within five
years of either Cam Ed or a municipal system, it runs the danger of
that recommendation becoming irrelevant very quickly.
Mr. Nesvig asked Mr. Piepmeier if he would recommend that the City
not sign a franchise for fifty years. Mr Piepmeier responded that
if the Commission does its work properly, the idea of a fifty year
franchise will be irrelevant. Mr. Piepmeier explained that
franchises were developed in the 1920's to insure sufficient demand
for the power generation by large central power generation plants.
Since 1968, Mr Piepmeier added, there has been no economy of scale
in central station power generation. He stated that the economics
of power generation changed radically, but the political and
regulatory mindsets on both sides of the table did not change with
the economic shifts, so everyone continues to debate franchises
which is like fighting the last war. Mr. Piepmeier concluded by
stating that of course utilities would like fifty year franchises
because this is linked to the mindset of the life expectancy of a
power plant.
Mr. Nesvig requested that members digest the material presented,by
Mr. Rolfes and present written statements at the next meeting in
response to items 1, 2 and 4 under "Process to Develop Plan". Joe
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APPROVED
ENERGY COMMISSION
MINUTES OF MEETING OF NOVEMBER 29, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: CAIN, GOELZ HOFFMAN, JASKULSKI, KRAFT,
MICHAELS, NESVIG, PIEPMEIER, ROLFES, WARMINGTON
MEMBERS ABSENT: GRUMMAN, NICHOLS
PRESIDING OFFICIAL: BUD NESVIG, CHAIR
STAFF PRESENT: MARINO
SUMMARY OF ACTION
Bud Nesvig called the Meeting to order at 7:18 A.M. Marc Rolfes
moved for approval of the Minutes of the Meeting of November 19,
1993. David Kraft provided a second to the motion. Mr. Kraft asked
that the Minutes be amended to include his request to Roy
Warmington that NIGAS be asked if it has peen required by state
statute or regulation to disclose information about its
distribution system, and whether such requirement would also apply
to Com Ed. Members present voted unanimously to approve the minutes
with the addition of Mr., Kraft's request.
Mr. Nesvig called attention to Mr. Jaskulski's comments concerning
Com Ed's wheeling capacity as stated in the Minutes of November
19th. He commented that this appeared to contradict what had been
previously stated by Com Ed. Mr. Jaskulski added that there may be
technical complications in wheeling power into Evanston, but they
should not be insurmountable.
Mr. Nesvig reported that he had reviewed the 1992-1993 City of
Evanston Budget and found that the total budget was $47 million and
that the property tax collected is $23.5 million. He added that the
Commission should be aware of these facts because Com Ed pays
Chicago $80 million in franchise fees while Evanston receives
$400, 000 in free electricity. If Evanston received a pro rata share
of franchise fees comparable to Chicago, it would receive $2
million annually. Mr. Nesvig added that $2 million would equal 8-91
of the annual property taxes the City of Evanston receives. He
added that $400,000 in free electricity should be valued at only
$150,000 cash.
SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS
David Kraft reported that the Environment Board is expecting that
the Energy Commission will delegate a subcommittee of three people
to work with the Environment Board Subcommittee to develop an
Energy Policy. Joseph Jaskulski and Gary Michaels volunteered to•
join Mr. Kraft on this subcommittee. Bud Nesvig indicated he would
attend meetings when possible.
Marc Rolfes distributed an outline of a process for developing the
Commission's work plan. Mr. Rolfes stated that he viewed the
primary purpose of the Energy Commission was to assess the
possibility and wisdom of constructive change. He asked that
members today discuss the content of the plan and the process for
developing it as well as the structure, not the content, of final
recommendations, especially the topics to be addressed by the
Commission's recommendations.
Mr. Rolfes stated that he had developed a list of possible
attributes of the plan for discussion. He recommended that there be
two components of the plan: an Executive Summary and a detailed
working plan. He also recommended that the plan include a best
guess cost estimate for each individual task as well as a
responsible party for completion (e.g. Commission member, staff,
consultant). In conclusion, Mr. Rolfes recommended that the
Commission distill the final recommended plan into an appropriate,
but brief presentation before the Cite Council and appropriate
Committees. David Kraft expressed support for Mr. Rolfes approach,
especially the itemization of the cost of each task.
Mr. Rolfes stated that the final recommendations should be based on
specific standards such as to what level should reliability be
enhanced.
Mr. Nesvig asked Mr. Rolfes what he viewed as the Commission's
charge from the City Council. Mr. Rolfes responded that he
considered the eight duties listed in the Ordinance creating the
Commission as a point of departure for the discussion of a work
plan. He added that each duty listed in the Ordinance is
intertwined with other unstated issues as well as several of the
other duties listed in the Ordinance. He suggested the Commission
analyze what are the interconnections between these issues.
Mr. Nesvig stated that the Energy Policy
the other duties listed in the Ordinance,
the Energy Policy which will address the
policy.
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is intertwined with all of
especially that aspect of
City's electrical energy
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Joe Jaskulski stated that half of the eight tasks listed in the
Ordinance address Cam Ed and half address other issues. He
cautioned members to focus on immediate issues involving the Com Ed
relationship which has a focal point and a deadline for
consideration.
David Kraft stated that the essence of the issue for the Commission
is to determine if the City should stay with Com Ed and if not Com
Ed, then what entity or entities should or could supply
electricity. Marc Rolfes suggested that maybe the focus should be
what the City wants and needs and whether Cam Ed will conform to
this need. Mr. Kraft stated that Com Ed has already stated that its
position is the Northwest Municipal Franchise Agreement.
Jim Piepmeier indicated that the Commission should not focus on
fighting the last war or debating an outdated issue: Cam Ed or not
Com Ed. He added that Cam Ed will probably be a very different
company in five years and it will be a totally different company in
50 years if it even exists at that time. Mr. Piepmeier stated that
there will not be a single supplier of electricity to Evanston in
five years, it will be a combination of suppliers with groups of
customers banding together working with various suppliers. He
encouraged members not to become bogged down in planning based on
today's supply structure. He commented that if the Commission tries
to focus on what ought to be done, we will be outfoxed by market
forces. According to Mr. Piepmeier, the Commission should focus on
what it wants to happen and to encourage innovation in the delivery
of electrical power by a newly emerging system. He concluded by
stating that if the Commission makes a recommendation within five
years of either Com Ed or a municipal system, it runs the danger of
that recommendation becoming irrelevant very quickly.
Mr. Nesvig asked Mr. Piepmeier if he would recommend that the City
not sign a franchise for fifty years. Mr Piepmeier responded that
if the Commission does its work properly, the idea of a fifty year
franchise will be irrelevant. Mr. Piepmeier explained that
franchises were developed in the 1920's to insure sufficient demand
for the power generation by large central power generation plants.
Since 1968, Mr Piepmeier added, there has been no economy of scale
in central station power generation. He stated that the economics
of power generation changed radically, but the political and
regulatory mindsets on both sides of the table did not change with
the economic shifts, so everyone continues to debate franchises
which is like fighting the last war. Mr. Piepmeier concluded by
stating that of course utilities would like fifty year franchises
because this is linked to the mindset of the life expectancy of a
power plant.
Mr. Nesvig requested that members digest the material presented'by
Mr. Rolfes and present written statements at the next meeting in
response to items 1, 2 and 4 under "Process to Develop Plan". Joe
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Jaskulski encouraged members to review the eight tasks included as
Commission duties in the Ordinance creating the Commission . He
also suggested that written documents presented at one meeting be
discussed during the subsequent meeting.
Jim Piepmeier reported that he had no report to present concerning
the Subcommittee addressing inventory and evaluation of the
electrical distribution system. He encouraged members to review the
article in the Electricity Journal he had co-authored. The article
is entitled "Reclaiming Edison's Richer Vision."
Janet Goelz Hoffman stated that she was continuing to research
certain legal issues as part of the work of the Subcommittee on
Legal and regulatory issues. She added that she needed to discuss
certain issues with Commission staff and with Marc Rolfes before
proceeding.
Reporting for the Subcommittee charged with evaluating previous
studies undertaken by the Energy Alternatives Task Force, Gary
Michaels summarized the findings of the Duncan and Allen Report. A
copy of his written presentation is attached to the minutes. Joseph
Jaskulski suggested that the study needed to be updated by using
1991 and 1992 usage data in addition to the 1990 data that were
used as the basis for the study. Gary Michaels stated that the rate
projections for Com Ed were based on an ICC ruling that has since
been overturned by the Courts and restructured. David Kraft
commented that the Duncan and Allen represented a "best
conservative projection" of the rates of a municipal utility
compared to the assumed rate structure for Com Ed projected for
thirteen years.
Joseph Jaskulski presented a list of information to be obtained
from Com Ed based on data that had been provided to him by Dennis
Marino concerning previous data requests of Com Ed and responses
received by Energy Alternatives Task Force or the City's
consultants. Mr. Jaskulski stated that he would draft a letter for
the next meeting incorporating three of the five informational
items listed in a document he distributed. Bud Nesvig stated that
this discussion would-be continued at the next meeting once a draft
letter is presented.
The Meeting was adjourned at 8:57 A.M.
Dennis Marino
Economic Development Planner
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APPROVED
ENERGY COMMISSION
MINUTES OF MEETING OF DECEMBER 7, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: CAIN, GRUMMAN, HOFFMAN, JASKULSKI, NESVIG,
PIEPMEIER, ROLFES, WARMINGTON
MEMBERS ABSENT: MICHAELS, NICHOLS, KRAFT
PRESIDING OFFICIAL: BUD NESVIG, CHAIR
STAFF PRESENT: MARINO
SUMMARY OF ACTION
Bud Nesvig called the Meeting to order at 7:18 A.M. Marc Rolfes
moved for approval of the Minutes of the Meeting of November 29,
1993. Janet Hoffman provided a second to the motion. The Minutes,
with three corrections, were approved by unanimous vote. Mr.
Grumman abstained.
COMMUNICATIONS
Bud Nesvig asked for communications from Dennis Marino. Mr. Marino
introduced Joan Farquharson who will be working along with him in
preparation of packets, meeting minutes, etc. approximately one day
per week. The day will vary each week, and contact with Joan will
be through Dennis Marino. Dennis Marino requested that members be
prepared to discuss a 1994 meeting schedule at the next meeting.
He will need a schedule that provides for a regularly scheduled
meeting one day per month, 12 months in advance. More meetings
may be scheduled, but the City Clerk needs the 12 months regular
meeting schedule for publication.
Dennis Marino next informed the Commission members of the receipt
by the Mayor of a letter of resignation by Peter Nichols, a member
of the Energy Commission. Mr. Nichols stated in his letter that
although he fully supports the goals of the Commission, he finds he
is unable to commit the time and resources necessary to
participate, and apologizes for any inconvenience his resignation
causes. Outlining the procedure to appoint another member, Mr.
Marino explained that the Mayor would nominate someone to replace
Mr. Nichols. The nomination would be introduced to City Council at
one meeting, voted on at the next meeting. Mr. Grumman asked if
there is a backlog of applicants. Mr. Marino agreed to check on
the number of applications that had not been acted upon. He added
that the earliest the City Council will address this issue will be
in January. Bud Nesvig suggested that someone with an electrical
engineering background or an accounting/finance background should
be identified. Mr. Jaskulski felt the Commission was lacking
expertise in electrical distribution. He also acknowledged that
this kind of expertise will likely be found with a Commonwealth
Edison employee or an electrical distribution consultant.
In response to a question from Mr. Grumman, Dennis Marina noted
that the requirements for Commission membership do not include
residency in Evanston. All current members of the Commission now
are either Evanston residents or are employed in Evanston.
Dennis Marino also clarified the internal and external distribution
of packets as requested at the last meeting. Internal distribution
includes the City Manager, Eric Anderson, and Asst. City Manager,
Judith Aiello. City Clerk Kris Davis receives approved minutes and
is the primary dissemination point for public requests. The Mayor
and Aldermen receive approved minutes on a monthly basis. Other
parties who have requested packet information are Eunice Collins
of Com Ed and Jake Arnov, a citizen who had been present often at
Energy Alternatives Task Force Meetings. Members of the public may
request non -confidential copies of the minutes and packet
materials.
Bud Nesvig reported that at the 12 month period ending Sept. 30,
1993, Com Ed had earnings of $2.24 per share as opposed to last
year they had a loss of $.44 per share. Mr. Nesvig also presented
the wind tower aero-electric power plant concept, primarily to take
note of alternative energy sources, not to endorse this particular
source.
David Grumman submitted several articles for distribution to
members at the next meeting. He also submitted a copy of Com Ed's
proposed rate schedule that provides for negotiated contracts for
existing large general service customers, which provides an option
for volume discounts.
Janet Hoffman referred to an article in the Ill. Bar Assoc. Local
Gov. Law Newsletter concerning the ability of municipalities to use
utility revenues for general corporate purposes. Home rule
entities have somewhat broader powers, but are still restrained by
state statutes. Members may receive a copy of this article from
Dennis Marino.
Marc Rolfes suggested that a subcommittee be created to filter out
pertinent material from newspapers, magazines and professional
journals, Bud Nesvig asked for a volunteer to filter this
information. Roy Warmington volunteered to perform this task.
David Grumman suggested that the Commission establish some criteria
to guide Mr. Warmington and staff in selecting articles.
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Mark Rolfes reported that he had seen and has available a video
tape that discusses Evanston's Electric Franchise Options, dated
March, 1992 which had been taped by David Kraft. He shared two
impressions of the videotape: (1) It describes in detail the
electric franchise negotiations between Com Ed and the City of
Chicago and; (2) the Energy Alternatives Task Force had undertaken
considerable work from which the Commission may benefit.
Dennis Marino reported that Charles Klosterman of the Environment
Board, who also serves on the joint subcommittee with the Energy
Commission, had contacted him to indicate that he plans to submit'
a memorandum jointly drafted with David Kraft (Energy Commission
member) which will transmit a copy of the document "Energy Plan for
the 19801s" to the City Council. Mr. Klosterman stated that he was
concerned that most Aldermen are not familiar with this official
City document and plan.
Discussion ensued regarding the utility of the plan referred to by
Mr. Klosterman. David Grumman stated that although the document is
dated (1982), it is a good policy nonetheless. Mr. Rolfes
encouraged that as much information be shared as soon as possible
given that not starting the education process soon enough was one
of the major problems for the City of Chicago. Mr. Piepmeier
referred to the energy plan document as a good example of what not
to do and that the Commission should be more focused upon a set of
policies that are market driven, not a plan that may be too
specific and can become irrelevant. Bud Nesvig requested that the
draft memorandum be included in the Commission's next packet.
DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED WORK PLAN
Mr. Nesvig next referred to the request during the last meeting
that members individually prepare major items to be included in the
proposed work plan of the Commission. Members had agreed during the
previous meeting that documents would be distributed during one
meeting and discussed and acted upon at the next meeting. Documents
were distributed.
INFORMATION REQUEST OF COM ED
The Commission next addressed a draft letter to Com Ed prepared by
Joseph Jaskulski. The letter was discussed and changes were made
with the 3rd paragraph deleted. Mr. Jaskulski moved to adopt and
forward the revised letter, with Mr. Rolfes seconding. The
Commission voted unanimously to approve the letter as revised.
Members agreed that the letter should be signed by Bud Nesvig, the
Chair of the Energy Commission. Roy Warmington also requested that
a copy of the letter be sent to the Director of Public Works who
will be the recipient of data required of Com Ed as part of the
Franchise which will be effective in 1999.
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Joseph Jaskulski suggested a general strategy to deal with
companies like Com Ed. He described it as "Pushing On the
Elephant". Pushing from the side is the only way to change
direction a little. Pushing any other way - you can't stop it.
Moral of the story is don't fight them, they have infinite
resources and will wear you out. He added that the Commission
should instead try to adopt a cooperative attitude with them, not
developing an antagonistic or adversarial approach. Mr. Jaskulski
commented that Com Ed is changing and that the Commission should
observe the company and try to work with it. He concluded by
stating that Cam Ed could help the Commission by designating
Evanston as a test site for certain research and technological
innovations.
STAFF/ CONSULTANT JOB DESCRIPTION
Bud Nesvig asked David Grumman to summarize the work he had
conducted on this topic. Mr. Grumman referred to a task list for
services to the Commission he had distributed to members. Mr.
Grumman requested that this draft be shared with the City's
Department of Human Resources for advisory comment. Members agreed
by consensus to defer additional discussion of this topic until the
Commission's work plan has been completed.
Dennis Marino described a Work Study Program which had been
developed by Northwestern University with funding from the State of
Illinois.The program will provide students over the summer to work
in engineering, science and educational related positions with 50V
funding. The sponsoring employer is responsible for 50% of the
summer employyee's wages.
Mr. Marino suggested that an engineering student could be used for
items #1 and #2 on David Grumman's list, and as a supplementary
resource to the Commission's regular staff.
Bud Nesvig suggested that a group of students under this
arrangement could map out and count the whole distribution system.
Joseph Jaskulski added that there is no need to count the system if
we want to know the cost for it new. An engineering firm could
calculate the cost of serving the City of Evanston with a new
distribution system from their offices, with reasonable accuracy.
Dennis Marino indicated that Northwestern University needs a
commitment by December loth from summer employers. David Grumman
moved that the Commission recommend that the City Manager commit to
hire one student in June. Janet Hoffman seconded the motion. All
members present voted unanimously for the motion.
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OTHER BUSINESS
Bud Nesvig reiterated that each of the Commission members has the
assignment, before the December 17, 1993 Meeting, to review the
documents provided by Commission members today which indicate the
proposed major tasks for the draft work plan.
Mark Rolfes commented upon the goals for electric service published
by the Energy Alternatives Task Force. He indicated that the
essence of these goals involved reliability, low cost, conservation
and environmental sensitivity, and flexibility.
Mr. Rolfes stated that traditionally there are four segments
involved in examining an electric utility: the generational
segment, the distribution segment, the transmission segment, and
the end use segment. He added that the Commission needs to
determine which of these segments must be addressed to achieve
stated goals. For example, he added, is ownership of the
distribution system a perquisite to having flexibility ?
Janet Hoffman requested information from Dennis Marino as to what
kind of indemnification the City provides to Commission members.
Dennis Marino agreed to ask the Corporation Counsel of the City to
respond to Ms. Hoffman's request.
Bud Nesvig asked for additional Subcommittee reports. Roy
Warmington reported on possible NIGAS financial assistance
regarding direct payment for buying equipment that uses gas. His
source at NIGAS indicated this was not possible. Mr. Grumman
suggested he contact a NIGAS representative in Naperville, and Mr.
Warmington agreed to do so and obtain additional clarification.
Mr. Warmington also reported that NIGAS will pay for co -generation
feasibility studies. He added that NIGAS also provides special low
rates for gas air conditioners. Mr. Warmington then reported on
the availability of data from NIGAS. He stated that the atlas
pages, which describe the locations of gas mains and vaults, can be
made available for Commission use. The disclosure of this
information, he added, is not required by ordinance or code.
In answer to a question Bud Nesvig raised during a previous meeting
concerning NIGAS willingness to finance equipment purchases, Mr.
Warmington stated that NIGAS would not help the City of Evanston by
providing pumps free of charge for the water plant if the City
shifted from electric -powered to gas -powered equipment.
Joseph Jaskulski requested that a new subcommittee be formed for
talking to Com. Ed. regarding working cooperatively with them and
exploring what the Company is willing to do without being coerced.
Mr. Grumman indicated that he would like to be involved in such a
subcommittee. Mr. Grumman, Mr. Jaskulski and Mr. Cain agreed to
form a subcommittee to work on this issue.
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The meeting adjourned at 9:06 A.M.
Joan / trquhars
Temporary Secretary
ENERGY COMMISSION
MINUTES OF MEETING OF DECEMBER 17, 1993
MEMBERS PRESENT: CAIN, GRUMMAN, JASKULSKI, KRAFT,
MICHAELS, NESVIG, PIEPMEIER, ROLFES,
WARMINGTON
MEMBERS ABSENT: HOFFMAN
PRESIDING OFFICIAL: BUD NESVIG, CHAIR
STAFF PRESENT: MARINO, FARQUHARSON
SUMMARY OF ACTION
Bud Nesvig called the Meeting to order at 7:20 A.M. Marc Rolfes
moved for approval of the Minutes of the Meeting of December 7,
1993. Mr. Jaskulski provided a second to the motion. Members
present voted unanimously to approve the minutes with the two
corrections.
COMMUNICATIONS
Mr. Nesvig called for comments on articles submitted in the packet
for this meeting.
Mr. Rolfes inquired about the Illinois Bar Association's Newsletter
article Janet Hoffman referred to at the last meeting, concerning
the ability of municipalities to use utility revenues for general
corporate purposes. Dennis Marino explained that the article
focused on water utilities and that copies will be included in the
next packet to Commission Members.
Mr. Grumman clarified that accompanying the article about Com Ed's
proposed negotiated rates with large customers, is a copy of the
actual filing of the proposed new tariff with the Illinois Commerce
Commission. Mr. Nesvig asked whether this is what Com Ed has been
doing all along with large customers. Mr. Grumman reported that to
his knowledge, Com Ed has offered a special rate on various
occasions to individual customers.
Mr. Nesvig asked David Kraft to report on the draft communication
from Mr. Kraft of the Energy Commission and Charles Klosterman of
the Environment Board to the City Council.
Providing the background on this communication, ❑ennis Marino
explained that Mr. Klosterman had reported that several current
aldermen were not aware of the Energy Plan for the Bole document
that had been drafted by an Energy Conservation Committee in the
early 19801e. Mr. Klosterman had asked Mr. Marino if the document
could be communicated to the City Council with the memorandum from
Mr. Kraft and Mr. Klosterman included in the Commission's packet
for this meeting.
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David Kraft added that he and Mr. Klosterman both felt that the
energy plan needed to be in the hands of the aldermen, and that the
memorandum needed to be from both the Energy Commission and the
Environment Board. Mr. Marino clarified that the communication had
not yet been transmitted to City Council since it needed to be
reviewed by the Energy Commission.
James Piepmeier asked that if by sending this document, do we in
any way imply endorsement of the Energy Plan. He stated that those
who drafted the document, which is a good document, asked the wrong
questions and therefore did the wrong research. As Mr. Piepmeier
had mentioned at a previous meeting, the Plan was off by a factor
of three in its forecast, which is comparable to most projections.
He added that is a lesson for the Commission not to forecast, but
to draw a distinction between a forecast and a policy, so that it
will not make the same mistakes as the previous energy plan.
Discussion ensued regarding how the document should be introduced
to City Council, what direction should accompany it, and whether it
should be presented as a part of the Energy Commission's Work Plan
submittal. Mr. Jaskulski moved to consider the document for
inclusion in our Work Plan as an exhibit or attachment. Mr.
Piepmeier seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously.
The Commission then considered the letter from Bud Nesvig to Eunice
Collins of Com Ed. Mr. Grumman moved to approve the letter as
drafted, with Mr. Jaskulski providing a second to the motion. All
members present voted unanimously to send the letter. Mr. Marino
indicated that he will fax the letter to Com Ed. today.
Mr. Nesvig referred to the Committee formed at the last meeting,
consisting of members Cain, Grumann and Jaskulski, which has been
charged with responsibility of communicating with Cam Ed and
encouraging a cooperative working relationship. Mr. Grumman asked
for input regarding when the Committee should initiate contact with
Com Ed, After discussion by members, Mr. Grumman agreed to
attempt to schedule up a meeting with Eunice Collins, Director of
Public Affairs and Mr. Petkus, Executive Vice President of Com Ed.
during the last week of December.
DISCUSSION OF PROCESS FOR DEVELOPING THE COMMISSION'S WORK PLAN AND
PRESENTING IT TO CITY COUNCIL
Marc Rolfes stated.that the process he has developed for creating
a work plan for the Commission serves the following purposes: (1)
It will present and effectively sell what the Commission is
attempting to do. (2) It will keep the Commission focused on a
clear path for completing its assignment. (3) It will also allow
the Commission members to communicate cn an individual basis, to
explain why we may not be considering certain issues or approaches
(4) It will provide the Commission with the opportunity to document
its work and plans.
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Mr. Rolfes then used the chalkboard to illustrate how this
technique could be used for the Electric Service Task Plan. He
stated that the process begins without any initial assumptions
except for the four goals as stated by the Energy Alternatives Task
Force: reliability, cost, efficiency/conservation and flexibility.
He added that these goals may also be challenged and altered as
part of the level 0 discussion. Mr. Rolfes stated that he proposes
using six levels of analysis or six levels of mapping, 0 to 5, to
complete the development of the Work Plan.
Mr. Rolfes described the level 0 process as the most global, where
goals will be addressed and the relationship between the goals and
major issues, such as generation, transmission, distribution and
end use will be explored. He explained that the level 0 map is
something we can always refer to, as it sets the basis for where we
are headed for each one of the other maps. The prime effort that
we use in a level 0 is how our goals are dependent upon this large
process.
Mr. Piepmeier asked if we are going to confine ourselves just to
electricity or is the substantive presentation only for
illustrative purposes? Mr. Rolfes responded that members should
concern themselves with the process, not the content.
Drawing attention to page 7 of the handout distributed to members, ANIM
Mr. Rolfes explained how a level 0 map would be used to incorporate
goals. What he called the impact scenario will be addressed at
this level. He explained that this is important because in
examining the reliability aspect one might measure the impact in =
the end use category as to whether, for example, toast comes out to
the correct doneness, or whether or not your light bulb turns on. _
The other component of this analysis is "Who has control of all
these things7" Currently Com Ed owns and controls everything from
generation through to the end use. The homeowner or business, _
however, takes responsibiiicy For the internal wiring and replacing
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Under scenario 2, Mr. Rolfes explained, the Commission may decide
that for reliability, it will only assess improving the goal from
the distribution standpoint. If there were to be a focus upon the
end use category, then perhaps there wou:j be an assessment of what
type of insurance policy could be offerer o replace the toaster or
refrigerator when it faired. This would 4e similar to the old days
of AT&T when we rented our phones - the operation of the phone was
AT&T's problem.
Under reliability, the Commission might consider (hypothetically)
improving the reliability of the distribution of electricity in
Evanston by doing the following: give Com Ed a half million
dollars to go fix the substation, because Com Ed was unwilling to
do it with its own funds, for example. Under the cost goal, the
Commission may decide to examine distribution and end use.
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Conservation concerns might focus on reducing the amount of
electricity, regardless of the rate or cost of that electricity.
This may involve demand side management, more efficient appliances,
etc.
Mr. Rolfes then described the process to develop level 1 which
begins with brainstorming everything that Commission members can
possibly think should be investigated regarding reliability of the
distribution system. Building upon this, Mr. Rolfes added, the
Commission would identify where the grouping of issues occur and
where there is overlap. The brainstorming process was described as -
generating perhaps 50 ideas on the reliability of the distribution
system, in terms of where we have to go, what we have to
investigate. Then the Commission would condense this list down to
maybe 4 to 10 major questions.
The Commission will have to decide on what level of detail we want
in the level 1 map and be consistent. So, in this case we would
have four level 1 maps, for each of the 4 goals, concluding with
maybe 5 major questions.
Mr Rolfes described the Level 2 process as an intermediate step,
involving identification of where the linkages are. Within this
level of analysis, Mr. Rolfes proposes combining the 4 goals into
one map in this step.
Level 3 is what we would use fcr the Commission's executive summary
plan. The analysis completed at this stage can be developed into
a presentable document. This is also the level in which the
Commission analyzes. the consistency of detail throughout the
proposed work plan and considers any issues which may not have been
included. Examples for illustration purposes might be: (1) What are
the lessons learned from the City of Chicago's franchise agreement?
(2) What is the likely reaction from Cam Ed. The Commission needs
to be able to answer the questions Council may ask and describe its = _
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Mr. Rolfes then suggested that at this point, the Commission may
secure an outside review of its propose) work plan. He added that
the final step of the Level 3 map is to condense it and decide how
to present it to the City Council.
The Level 4 map, according t-- Mr. Rol:-s, would add details and
additional tasks.
The Level 5 map, he added, wo.dld add who will conduct such tasks }
and present an estimate of the time involved. The Commission will
also address at this level what tasks w-1 be addressed internally
and externally as well as how much fund,ng is available.ti=__
Commission members next commenced on the technique presented by Mr.3
Rolfes. Mr. Grumman felt that this approach would address the
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interrelationship of issues to be addressed by the Commission. Mr.
Jaskulski added that he would be in favor of this approach and sees
that it will provide focus to the Commission., Mr Nesvig stated
that his only objection was calling the technique a mapping
process; it seems more like a flow chart. Mr. Rolfes indicated
that the term map would not even be used in the level 3
presentation to City Council
Members next discussed how and when to make a presentation to City
Council. Dennis Marino explained that typically City Council
receives a 2 to 5 page memorandum covering an executive summary of•
a Work Plan and the actual work Plan. Dennis Marino was asked about
the January 24th deadline for presenting the Work Plan to City
Council. He responded that the Resolution passed by City Council
asking for a work Plan established a January 24th date for
presentation of a Work Plan before the Administration and Public
Works Committee. He added thaz� the discussion may involve one or
two meetings with the Committee.
Commission members discussed asking the City Council for an
extension of the deadline to March 7, 1994 in order to present the
actual Work Plan. Bud Nesvig moved to request an extension, with
Joe jaskulski providing a second. The motion passed with 8 ayes
and 1 nay by David Kraft. In view of the time needed to develop
this plan, the Commission adopted by consensus, a new work schedule
leading up to the presentation to the Administration and Public
Works Committee on March 7th, as well as a 1994 meeting schedule,
with the option to schedule additional meetings as needed.
Mr. Kraft suggested a procedural adjustment for the upcoming
Commission meetings, that r.he meeting minutes, review and Committee
reports be suspended to the meeting of February 7, 1994.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:20 A.M.
Joan rquhar n, Temporary Secretary
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